So why is this guy green?

[ho_co]

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And here's the way the image printed on a "PhotoSmart" HP all-in-one.

 

 

Wha hoppen? What am I overlooking? (The image also prints the guy a bit greenish and a bit dark on my Epson 3000.) Where's the green coming from? And what do I do to correct it?

 

Thanks.

[Jeff S]

Nozzle check and head cleaning?

 

Jeff

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[peterbengtson]

Start with monitor calibration and proper printer/paper profiles. An all in one is a poor choice for a photo printer.

[ho_co]

Thanks, Peter. I agree about all-in-ones and quality output; I don't use this printer for anything important. I am using the proper paper profile, but an uncalibrated monitor.

 

But even when I print this image on the Epson, the fellow turns out greenish. Not as bad as with the HP, but still not normal skin-tone.

 

I've always been able to get good results from the Epson 3000, but I guess I'm going to have to calibrate the monitor.

 

BTW, the man's face in the screen shot looks much redder on the Forum than on the screen.

 

Jeff, nozzle check and clean is a good idea; I'll give it a try.

 

Thanks both.

Edited September 29, 2014 by ho_co

[250swb]

FWIW on my calibrated monitor the top picture, given I don't know the scene or lighting, could be interpreted as OK for an Asian complexion in shadow. He is a bit orange, but not un-naturally red, and without knowing I'd put it down to the light.

 

I agree the symptoms look like a nozzle check is in order, where one colour seems to be completely removed from the print this is the first port of call. But some cheap photo papers can also lead you up the garden path and you don't say what you used. So when doing your checks bite the bullet and make sure your photo paper is top quality, not to do the nozzle checks etc., but to judge the final print.

 

Steve

[tobey bilek]

Forum/internet posts go through servers that want to compress and change the photo. Internet needs to be in sRGB.

 

Many reasons why the printer photos are off. Start with color space, calibrated monitors ( read expensive ) soft proofing or allow the printer to to adapt the photo to printer. You need to tell it the proper profile for the paper in use. Most if not all printers can not use pro photo. Most need sRGB.

 

If you soft proof, then you do it with the color profile activated, then when you save for printing, you MUST TURN THE PROFILE OFF . Otherwise you double profile. When you turn it off, the pic may become ugly, but will print fine.

 

Be sure to allow check the box in the printer software that tells the printer to apply the canned profile or allow photoshop to do it and just print what it receives.

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[ruben_c]

Thanks, Peter. I agree about all-in-ones and quality output; I don't use this printer for anything important. I am using the proper paper profile, but an uncalibrated monitor.

 

But even when I print this image on the Epson, the fellow turns out greenish. Not as bad as with the HP, but still not normal skin-tone.

 

I've always been able to get good results from the Epson 3000, but I guess I'm going to have to calibrate the monitor.

 

BTW, the man's face in the screen shot looks much redder on the Forum than on the screen.

 

Jeff, nozzle check and clean is a good idea; I'll give it a try.

 

Thanks both.

 

Well you can't expect much if you have an uncalibrated monitor.

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[ho_co]

FWIW on my calibrated monitor the top picture, given I don't know the scene or lighting, could be interpreted as OK for an Asian complexion in shadow. He is a bit orange, but not un-naturally red, and without knowing I'd put it down to the light.

 

I agree the symptoms look like a nozzle check is in order, where one colour seems to be completely removed from the print this is the first port of call. But some cheap photo papers can also lead you up the garden path and you don't say what you used. So when doing your checks bite the bullet and make sure your photo paper is top quality, not to do the nozzle checks etc., but to judge the final print.

 

Ran nozzle check--no problem apparent. Lighting was mixed.

 

Papers used were (green sample) HP Premium Plus Photo Glossy and (not shown but mentioned above) Epson Premium Semi-Gloss. Not ultra high-end, but still good quality. Used the manufacturers' profiles. May have mistakenly used Adobe RGB for the HP print. Will try printing in different color spaces particularly to the Epson R3000. I think its gamut includes Adobe RGB, which I usually use for printing to it. Used sRGB for above web images, of course.

 

Thanks to everyone for your input! Most helpful.

[ho_co]

An all in one is a poor choice for a photo printer.

 

Peter, I agree about all-in-ones, and it's certainly not my go-to-printer. I am getting more and more disappointed with it in many ways.

 

But in fairness I must make three points about it:

• HP did include it in their "PhotoSmart" series.
  
• DPReview didn't think it deserved the "PhotoSmart" appellation.
  
• It is no longer available, thank goodness!