leica dream Posted April 9, 2013 Share #1 Posted April 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am gradually transferring my work from an ageing Windows desktop before it decides to fall off its perch. My new device is a Macbook Pro. My license for Photoshop CS5 covers my Windows machine,and one other but they must be on the same platform. That presumably means I must fork out for a completely separate license to run Photoshop CS5 on my Mac.........I cannot be alone in doing this, so is there a way around this expense? Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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andybarton Posted April 9, 2013 Share #2 Posted April 9, 2013 Yes, contact Adobe and they will help you move platform Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted April 10, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted April 10, 2013 Great advice, many thanks, Andy. Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted April 12, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted April 12, 2013 The outcome has been that Adobe insist that I upgrade to CS6 to enable transferring or join the Creative Cloud neither of which I could justify with my volume of use. However, there is a PC/MAC version of Lightroom compatible which I could purchase and load to both machines. I was not comfortable with Lightroom last time I experimented with the trial version, and upon reflection I only scratch the surface of the full Photoshop so might opt for the cheaper option of Elements 11. I'll explore Lightroom before making any decision. Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted April 12, 2013 Share #5 Posted April 12, 2013 You could run VMware or Parallels on your Mac to have a windows environment. Question: Could you transfer your version to that? Of course, that would incur other costs. So it may not be worth it either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasmg Posted April 13, 2013 Share #6 Posted April 13, 2013 I only scratch the surface of the full Photoshop so might opt for the cheaper option of Elements 11. I'll explore Lightroom before making any decision. I would strongly recommend giving Lightroom another try if you are not doing heavy duty file manipulation in PS. Remember it is also a great image management system. - Vikas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 15, 2013 Share #7 Posted April 15, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) The outcome has been that Adobe insist that I upgrade to CS6 to enable transferring or join the Creative Cloud neither of which I could justify with my volume of use. ... Sorry to hear that. I did exactly what you're trying to do 18 months ago, it was called a 'cross-grade' and was free. Sounds like Adobe's changed the rules. Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 15, 2013 Share #8 Posted April 15, 2013 Probably depends if you're trying to cross-grade a current product. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted April 15, 2013 Share #9 Posted April 15, 2013 Andy, At the time I was using Photoshop CS3 and Adobe offered the free cross-grade even though CS5 was the current version but as you point out it sounds like they'll only offer it for the current product now. Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted April 28, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted April 28, 2013 I am still considering my options about this transfer of some photoshop facility to Mac. Something I have got used to in CS5 is CONTENT AWARE manipulation. Can anyone tell me whether that is available in Elements 11? So far it looks like it will cost me about £100 more to upgrade to CS6 and then cross-grade against going backwards to a single Elements 11 which I could use on either machine. After looking at my needs, it may be that Elements will suffice...............so long as I do not lose BASIC facilities like Content aware. Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted May 8, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted May 8, 2013 The restrictions on this transfer get even tighter. I have been looking at Lightroom PC/MAC, but even though that is very affordable and I could get to like it..........The PC element works only on WIN VISTA or WIN7. I am still on WIN XP. Getting more frustrated by the day for what cannot surely be an uncommon situation. I do not want to get different software on both my systems. I cannot believe that Adobe have a policy to disadvantage their loyal customers. Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted May 8, 2013 Share #12 Posted May 8, 2013 Modern software needs a modern operating system to work properly. Windows XP is 10 years old - prehistoric in computing terms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 8, 2013 Share #13 Posted May 8, 2013 XP sadly goes out of support in a few months. It will still work, but there will ve no more security patches. Vista was as much of a joke as Me. 7 is at least stable. 8 is a disaster and will see a major release (Blue) shortly which is rumoured to address some of the brainless "features" that have made it all but unusable. Microsoft cannot give it away at the moment. Regards, Bill Sent from another Galaxy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share #14 Posted May 9, 2013 UGH! I am sinking into a deeper hole every minute. It is a pity that Mr Cameron's £10 Christmas bonus for pensioners does not go further! I guess I MUST look at a sole MAC solution, but I am still peeved that I cannot use what I have already. Richard Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 9, 2013 Share #15 Posted May 9, 2013 Sorry to hear that. I did exactly what you're trying to do 18 months ago, it was called a 'cross-grade' and was free. Sounds like Adobe's changed the rules. Pete. Since then Adobe has killed off the licensed version of Photoshop and will only offer it through Cloud subscription. A marketing move that can only have been dreamed up by nerds with their heads in the cloud. It means that they have lost me as a customer and possibly the majority of photographers. It has basically restricted the program to professional designers that have no alternative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leica dream Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) I thought what I read in the press was that although PS goes to the Cloud, it is still available as download and/or disk as basic version but no updates will be provided. I do realise that XP is old hat, but it is just that I want to get the maximum out of my ageing desktop before it gives up on me. Much bnetter to run the two in parallel for a while during familiarity, then switch off the PC for good when it dies. Well, that was my intention, but me thinks I need to reconsider. Richard Edited May 9, 2013 by leica dream Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 9, 2013 Share #17 Posted May 9, 2013 Since then Adobe has killed off the licensed version of Photoshop and will only offer it through Cloud subscription. ... Jaap, Does that mean that the Photoshop software is stored in the Cloud rather than on your own HDD or SSD? Or have I misunderstood your meaning? Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanyasi Posted May 9, 2013 Share #18 Posted May 9, 2013 Since then Adobe has killed off the licensed version of Photoshop and will only offer it through Cloud subscription. A marketing move that can only have been dreamed up by nerds with their heads in the cloud. It means that they have lost me as a customer and possibly the majority of photographers. It has basically restricted the program to professional designers that have no alternative. What Adobe has done is hardly driven by nerds. As is true of many companies, Adobe had looked at its customer base and decided that the bottom 10 or whatever percentile are not producing sufficient profit for the company, so it is doing two things. First, it is concentrating on its primary market (ad agencies, web development firms, large producers of media, and graphic designers). Second, it is being perfectly fair and reasonable with solo photographers. Lightroom and Photoshop Elements are available for those who don't need the full Photoshop package. For those who want Photoshop, you will need to pay slightly more to use the professional product. As for the value proposition, if I were running an agency that employed lots of users of Adobe software, I would like the straight-forward licensing and pricing, the web delivery system, and the continuous updates. From my days in a large law firm, I know just how expensive it is to have IT people running around constantly updating everyone's computer, although I assume servers have reduced that need. I have to believe the $50 a month is much cheaper if you have people who are using 4 or 5 programs in their everyday toolbox. Having these tools readily available to everyone in a particular design shop also encourages experimentation and self-training for those who are motivated and want to advance. As for the solo photographer, I think many have overlooked a few things. First, the new additions to Photoshop represent useful changes. I have seen videos on the sharpening, radial gradient, RAW filter, and camera motion tools. All look useful. I had expected the next update to Photoshop sometime in 2014. For $120, I get all these new features a year earlier. Not a big price to pay. Second, Photoshop is not the only thing you are receiving with the package. I get 20gb of offsite storage space. Not a lot given that I have 500gb with another service, but I don't back my photos up on that service. I plan to use the 20gb to back up the dng files that eventually result in prints. Third, I also receive the web building and hosting service that is part of the package. I am not quite sure where Adobe is going with that, but it does look like a potential substitute for Zenfolio or Smugmug. I haven't yet figured out the details, but it appears that there is an opportunity to sell you work through this site. It also appears to offer blogging opportunities and a pretty deep jobs database. Fourth, as I understand it, the system keeps all of your preferences the same on two computers. Having just taken a new laptop on the road with Photoshop, I learned how annoying it is to have to set up the preferences again. What I find particularly surprising is the angst and consternation over the pricing. It is certainly not true of everyone on the Leica Forum, but many people are using a $7,000 digital camera with at least one lens that costs between $3,000 or $4,000 dollars (unless they are using a Summarit, which is till a $2,000 proposition). Most the of the discussion of paper and inks centers on premium papers and inks. The paper can cost anywhere from $50 to $150 for a box of 25 sheets and replacing a set of inks can run $500 to $1,000. Paying $240 a year for a software package and the accompanying eco system (all the videos and training materials that Adobe and others make available for free) seems like a small amount to pay. Even if you aren't creating fantasy stage sets for movies from your photos, basic editing of RAW files is pretty important in the getting from image capture to final print or web file. I don't expect to change hard held views or put an end to what strikes me as simply griping to gripe, but there is another side to the story. If you want to continue to use CS3 or CS4 that's fine. Go ahead and use dated software and save a few dollars that you can invest in a $1,500 tripod or $750 worth of Lee Filters. My view has always been that if you are going to use software, use the latest version. I like the new features and doing so minimizes headaches as basic operating systems advance and eventually lose backward compatibility. For videos of the new features, see Adobe Photoshop CC: Favorite Features for Photographers | Creative Cloud for Photographers | Adobe TV So that everyone is on the same page, here is an FAQ that Adobe has put out for Photographers on Photoshop and the Creative Cloud. Answering Your Questions About Photoshop CC | PHOTOSHOP.COM BLOG 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted May 9, 2013 Share #19 Posted May 9, 2013 That's all very well unless you have a slow, no, or unreliable broadband connection. Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 9, 2013 Share #20 Posted May 9, 2013 It is not about pricing, Photoshop never was cheap. But I have a problem with cloud computing in general. We give our privacy in the hands of companies like Google, Microsoft, Apple and now Adobe - I'm not sure I am happy about that. And another concern: What happens when one ends one's subscription? Does PS disappear from my computer? What happens to my images floating in the cloud?. Etc... Fortunately there are alternatives. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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