D-Lux 4 & LX3

[herbet]

@ skimmel, yes ur right. That was the 1st thing I immediately noticed between the 2 cams.

for what I've seen both suffer from sample variations in regards to the dial.

[ianho_]

Originally Posted by herbet

for what I've seen both suffer from sample variations in regards to the dial.

Hmmmmmmmm I tried 2 units in the shop n both felt tight compared to the LX3. Oh well, lucky I got the tight 1 then.

[mhoutman]

Originally Posted by oldnikonman

I found the brown strap on the internet
"Leica Wrist Strap for Leica C-Lux 2 Digital Camera (Cognac-brown) only $19 but they wanted $72 to ship it to me, looks like I will have to see if Santa can fly me one over a bit cheaper.

albert, i use a m-system a la carte neckstrap for the d-lux 4. i had it double for my m8.

wears and feels very comfy and is very santa-klaus

[ianho_]

Hmmmmmmm............ just found a major difference between the LX3 n D-Lux4. I read rumors about the Leica having a better lens though the LX3 supposedly has the same lens. The Leica definitely has a different multi coating treatment on the lens. It can b clearly seen side by side under the same light.

Here's a pic. It's even more obvious in real life.





So.......... we now know there are differences between them although the hardware spec sheet claims they're identical. I feel much better now after paying double the price of the LX3. Looking forward to finding out more differences between them.

[skimmel]

Not sure what I'm looking at on my monitor -- what is it that you see in real life?

Also, what are those flaps at the side of the Leica lens?

[mhoutman]

Originally Posted by ianho_

Hmmmmmmm............ just found a major difference between the LX3 n D-Lux4. I read rumors about the Leica having a better lens though the LX3 supposedly has the same lens. The Leica definitely has a different multi coating treatment on the lens. It can b clearly seen side by side under the same light.

i very much doubt that leica is selling pana a different lens than using themselves, but again the pictures are not very clear in this.

we know there is different firmware/software and a different casing but that is it

[ianho_]

Originally Posted by skimmel

Not sure what I'm looking at on my monitor -- what is it that you see in real life?

Also, what are those flaps at the side of the Leica lens?

See how the LX3 has a more reflective lens? The reflection of the table lamp appears more white too n u can see the detail of the corrugated reflector surface clearly. The Leica is more bluish n less reflective. Those flaps r the Ricoh LC1 auto lens cap. I posted a "how to" here - http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...ens-cap-d.html

[skimmel]

Originally Posted by ianho_

See how the LX3 has a more reflective lens? The reflection of the table lamp appears more white too n u can see the detail of the corrugated reflector surface clearly. The Leica is more bluish n less reflective. Those flaps r the Ricoh LC1 auto lens cap. I posted a "how to" here - http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-...ens-cap-d.html

Thanks. Very cool modification!

If you put the lenses in exactly the same lighting (angle, etc), how different do they look?

[ianho_]

Originally Posted by skimmel

Thanks. Very cool modification!

If you put the lenses in exactly the same lighting (angle, etc), how different do they look?

U can actually see the diff in the pic above if u look carefully. Just look at the reflection of the lamp on the lens. It's very obvious in real life.

[earleygallery]

Look forward to seeing side by side shots taken with both cameras (please, same subject, time, lighting, ISO and settings).

We always hear how the Leica versions are meant to be set up differently (firmware) to the Pana's but I've yet to see any such photographic comparison.

[ianho_]

Originally Posted by earleygallery

Look forward to seeing side by side shots taken with both cameras (please, same subject, time, lighting, ISO and settings).

We always hear how the Leica versions are meant to be set up differently (firmware) to the Pana's but I've yet to see any such photographic comparison.

It's been raining everyday over here in Malaysia. Will be sure to get out when it stops raining in the afternoons to do the comparo shots.

[skimmel]

Originally Posted by ianho_

It's been raining everyday over here in Malaysia. Will be sure to get out when it stops raining in the afternoons to do the comparo shots.

Looking forward to it! (Of course, I have to make my decision by Saturday to take advantage of Leica days so may be a done deal for me!)

[nikonk]

i cant see any diff in my LX3 & DLUX4 coating, I look closing at point a direct Light Source to them.

[nikonk]

here is some comparison shots,

Photography Community in Penang, Malaysia - Leica DLUX4 vs Panasonic LX3 Initial Impression

[ianho_]

Originally Posted by nikonk

here is some comparison shots,

Photography Community in Penang, Malaysia - Leica DLUX4 vs Panasonic LX3 Initial Impression

LOL. So happens the 2 guys who own both LX3 n DL4 r from Malaysia. But lucky u with that lovely weather up north in Penang. It's been pouring down cats n dogs in KL everyday since I got the DL4. No chance to go out n do sum comparo shots. Perhaps I shud try sum close up shots indoors.

[unbiased]

Hello, I am new to these forums and also am a new Leica DLUX 4 owner. Just got mine 4 days ago and have been searching for more sample shots of these two cameras (LX3 and DLUX 4).

First thing I want to say is that I had two disappointments with my new DLUX 4.
1) The color seems to be off with flash shots. Makes people skin tones look pale with a pinkish-blueish hue to them. I also notice that the non-flash outdoor shots have same bias towards more blue-ish colorization than all of my other cameras (Canon, Sony, Panasonic).

2) My Leica lens seems to have some slight softness (blurriness) on the left side of some pictures. Center and right side of lens are consistently sharp and in decent focus, only the left side shows symptoms of blurriness.

So, with that said, In the sample shots link provided by precvious poster, I would tend to guess that the photos that have a more yellowish white appearance are the LX3 and the one that seems to have a more blue-ish tinge to them are from the DLUX 4.

Also, from what I have gathered, both cameras are exactly the same mechanically and electrically, just in different bodies. Go for the LX3. The DLUX 4 jpeg processing of colors is not all that great from what I can see. So it is a matter of tastes.
BTW, the WB can be fine tuned in the menus, but I feel for the high price I paid for this camera vs. the LX3, that I should not have to go in and fine tune the default settings to correct the color balance. Other than this I love the wide angle and the camera does take some really fantastic and sharp pics. It just is way OVER priced for what it is compared to the LX3. Happy shooting!

[brucek]

Originally Posted by unbiased

2) My Leica lens seems to have some slight softness (blurriness) on the left side of some pictures. Center and right side of lens are consistently sharp and in decent focus, only the left side shows symptoms of blurriness.

I finally managed to get some time to shoot with my D-Lux 4 yesterday and noticed some softness on the right side in one picture. I need to examine more photos to see if it's consistent.

[ianho_]

Originally Posted by unbiased

Hello, I am new to these forums and also am a new Leica DLUX 4 owner. Just got mine 4 days ago and have been searching for more sample shots of these two cameras (LX3 and DLUX 4).

First thing I want to say is that I had two disappointments with my new DLUX 4.
1) The color seems to be off with flash shots. Makes people skin tones look pale with a pinkish-blueish hue to them. I also notice that the non-flash outdoor shots have same bias towards more blue-ish colorization than all of my other cameras (Canon, Sony, Panasonic).

2) My Leica lens seems to have some slight softness (blurriness) on the left side of some pictures. Center and right side of lens are consistently sharp and in decent focus, only the left side shows symptoms of blurriness.

So, with that said, In the sample shots link provided by precvious poster, I would tend to guess that the photos that have a more yellowish white appearance are the LX3 and the one that seems to have a more blue-ish tinge to them are from the DLUX 4.

Also, from what I have gathered, both cameras are exactly the same mechanically and electrically, just in different bodies. Go for the LX3. The DLUX 4 jpeg processing of colors is not all that great from what I can see. So it is a matter of tastes.
BTW, the WB can be fine tuned in the menus, but I feel for the high price I paid for this camera vs. the LX3, that I should not have to go in and fine tune the default settings to correct the color balance. Other than this I love the wide angle and the camera does take some really fantastic and sharp pics. It just is way OVER priced for what it is compared to the LX3. Happy shooting!

Why dont u take it back for a warranty claim. Mebe they can give u a new unit or fix what u have now.

[mishima]

LX 3 and the D-Lux 4, so which has the highest noises for jpeg? .. i've notice that LX-3 is running on "Venus" software but does it make any difference compared to D-lux 4 (which im not too sure what software it is.. "leica" probably?

Hope you can share

[george_b]

Well guys; I moved from a "sounds like a good little camera for my pocket" to "I think I save my money and have look at others in the market" person. Quite an interesting perspective from people who have first hand experience of it in general use.
Thanks.