Vieri Posted August 5, 2008 Share #1 Posted August 5, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) The newly announced Micro Four Thirds standard, and its lack of a mirror box, sounds just like the ticket to build a 4/3 sensor RF camera, besides one that uses an EVF or Live View to focus. The new system will have 4/3 to Micro 4/3 adapters, and sounds just like it could be a very good way of building digi RF to me. Too bad that it will have a small 4/3 sensor (with all that comes with it, limited DR, noise, etc) and that it will probably never be able to use M lenses. What do you guys think of this news? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sdai Posted August 5, 2008 Share #2 Posted August 5, 2008 There would no place for a proper rangefinder in this damn camera, it'll only focus by contrast, there's nothing fancy about this, the Sigma DP1, Sony R1 and probably another bunch of point and shooters introduced at the Kina will all have bigger sensors than this one. Why would someone bother to change lenses for a pocket camera? so they screwed 4/3 by themselves, I'm waiting to see how they'll screw this one 2 years later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mym6is12 Posted August 5, 2008 Share #3 Posted August 5, 2008 Too bad that it will have a small 4/3 sensor (with all that comes with it, limited DR, noise, etc) and that it will probably never be able to use M lenses. What do you guys think of this news? There is more than enough flange distance ( 7.95mm spare ) to make a M mount adapter. If should be easy from the likes of Voigtlander to make a line of MF lenses that fit directly. There would seem to be a lot of mileage in this concept. Digital CL ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted August 5, 2008 Share #4 Posted August 5, 2008 There is more than enough flange distance ( 7.95mm spare ) to make a M mount adapter.If should be easy from the likes of Voigtlander to make a line of MF lenses that fit directly. There would seem to be a lot of mileage in this concept. Digital CL ? You can adapt any lens you like to the camera but it will only focus on contrast, which is a complete lackluster "feature" taking away all the fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted August 5, 2008 Share #5 Posted August 5, 2008 Olympus today launched a new concept for 4/3rds, MicroFT Four Thirds | Micro Four Thirds | Benefits of Micro Four Thirds the concept sees a shorter register than current 4/3rds system, but allows the use of 4/3rds lenses via an adapter. The bodies are mirrorless presumably EVIL Olympus / Panasonic announce Micro Four Thirds: Digital Photography Review Micro Four Thirds facts and features * Same Four Thirds sensor size (18 x 13.5 mm) * Flange back distance half that of Four Thirds (20 versus 40 mm) * Lens mount diameter 6 mm smaller (44 versus 50 mm) * Contrast Detect AF is implied (passive would require an external sensor) * Lens to body electrical contact points up to 11 from 9 * Lenses of same focal length and maximum aperture considerably smaller than Four Thirds * Enables slim and compact lens-interchangeable digital cameras * Lack of mirror well necessitate a high quality EVF (or an EVF/Viewfinder-less design) * Current Four Thirds lenses can be used with an adapter * Enables seamless switching between still and movie shooting Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krabat Posted August 5, 2008 Share #6 Posted August 5, 2008 Thank you for this information. However, I am asking myself, if they are reducing flange distance from 40 mm down to 20 mm AND lens mount diameter from 50 mm down to 44 mm, then the angle in which the light approaches the sensor in the periphery will become smaller. Therefore, a stronger vignetting should occur? Regards, Peter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted August 5, 2008 Share #7 Posted August 5, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) ....sounds reasonable ......................There is a rangefinder in there somewhere and I am sure they will do a better than Sigma ............ Sits well in my way of thinking and probably needs. I doubt if it fits in Leica's mentality, anyway they can rebadge it and call it a Leica.............. god knows it's happened before Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted August 5, 2008 Share #8 Posted August 5, 2008 Thank you for this information. However, I am asking myself, if they are reducing flange distance from 40 mm down to 20 mm AND lens mount diameter from 50 mm down to 44 mm, then the angle in which the light approaches the sensor in the periphery will become smaller. Therefore, a stronger vignetting should occur? Regards, Peter. the risk is more 'off axis' light at fast apertures yes, but it can be fooled with (corrected) via firmware too Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adi sudarsono Posted August 5, 2008 Share #9 Posted August 5, 2008 I wonder if they can put in an optical viewfinder or if we are going to have to rely on the live - view from the LCD? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted August 5, 2008 Share #10 Posted August 5, 2008 ....sounds reasonable ......................There is a rangefinder in there somewhere and I am sure they will do a better than Sigma ............ Sits well in my way of thinking and probably needs. I doubt if it fits in Leica's mentality, anyway they can rebadge it and call it a Leica.............. god knows it's happened before now is the time to remember Kaufmanns "a kind of small digital M" Drei-Stufen-Plan für Leica - DIE WELT - WELT ONLINE Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted August 5, 2008 Share #11 Posted August 5, 2008 I wonder if they can put in an optical viewfinder or if we are going to have to rely on the live - view from the LCD? it wont be OVF there might be an EVF extension, actually thats the whole point Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted August 5, 2008 Share #12 Posted August 5, 2008 I would be happy to see a old LTM lens on one of these boxes,,, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted August 5, 2008 Share #13 Posted August 5, 2008 The Four Thirds is dead. This is an all new system. The original specifications of the 4/3 System have changed!: Luminous landscape Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted August 5, 2008 Share #14 Posted August 5, 2008 The Four Thirds is dead. This is an all new system. The original specifications of the 4/3 System have changed!: Luminous landscape try not to be a total idiot so early heres the 11 pin adapter for 9 pin 4/3rds lenses Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
razerx Posted August 5, 2008 Share #15 Posted August 5, 2008 With the other brands going full frame the 4/3 system must find its niche else deserves to die. I am sure there will be a Digilux in there eventually and I will buy one. Maybe it'll be possible to take M mount lenses. Who knows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted August 5, 2008 Share #16 Posted August 5, 2008 It's more of a evolution than a death and as per usual Oly will piss a lot of people off, the usual neg stuff............... lets hope the deliver that compact camera they have been rabbiting on about this time Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Flatline Posted August 5, 2008 Share #17 Posted August 5, 2008 All the pieces are there for a true next-gen digital RF. This could be interesting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted August 5, 2008 Share #18 Posted August 5, 2008 try not to be a total idiot so earlyheres the 11 pin adapter for 9 pin 4/3rds lenses You can also adapt OM lenses to a Four Thirds mount, but the OM system is dead. You can also use R lenses on EOS bodies, etc. Many systems have partial compatibility. That is not the point. On the other hand, you cannot use "Micro Four Thirds" lenses on "Four Thirds" cameras. This is a new system with partial compatibility with the Four Thirds system. Things are not so easy, isn't? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted August 5, 2008 Share #19 Posted August 5, 2008 The Sigma DP1 has a manual focus wheel. Future Micro 4/3 cameras can have this feature too, and an optical viewfinder for framing on the flash mount (for fixed focal lenght lenses). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted August 5, 2008 Share #20 Posted August 5, 2008 You can also adapt OM lenses to a Four Thirds mount, but the OM system is dead. That is not the point. the point is you dont have a point your claim is 4/3rds is dead prove it Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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