leicatraveller Posted September 13, 2014 Share #1 Posted September 13, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) well let's starting saying that for me a phone can never replace a real camera (and for my need when i talk about a "real" camera for me its full frame...my Rx1 or my M240...maybe a sigma DP quattro can join this small group but this QX1 module with lens mount, a APS-C 20mp sensor...well to be truth i m much more excited about this product then leica T as portable camera its small, with a prime lens like sony 20mm 2.8 or sigma 19mm /30mm it can be kept in a small pouch as every day camera what do you think ? i didnt see any comment about this camera...anyway you will carry with you always your smartphone so this is just a small add on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cirke Posted September 13, 2014 Share #2 Posted September 13, 2014 I am also very interested do you think that a Metabones Leica M Mount Lens will work to use M lenses ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicatraveller Posted September 13, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted September 13, 2014 sure it work since its e-mount my concern that the whole kit with an additional adapter will become too big and heavy anyway the M adatper for what i know is very thin...i remember i used on a my old nex (pity was impossible to focus for me with M manual lens on screen without focus assists) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted September 13, 2014 Share #4 Posted September 13, 2014 i'd like to try it , I go maybe to photokina Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 14, 2014 Share #5 Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) You dismissed the Leica T out of hand for being APS-C ... Erick, someone like you should upgrade to the new and stunning looking Leica T. No thanks ! I want a modern mirror-less FF with the bests small lenses Edited September 14, 2014 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 14, 2014 Share #6 Posted September 14, 2014 As to the OP: it might be rather awkward to handle. I think it will join many other Rube Goldberg constructions by disappearing quietly from the market within the year, leaving a small enthusiastic group of users orphaned. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted September 14, 2014 Share #7 Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) You dismissed the Leica T out of hand for being APS-C ... You really dont see the BIG difference ? the QX is not a body it is an iphone extension You can use an iphone as menu and display, the Leica T is 1000 years behind it cost 300€ and so many advantages over the Leica T If I buy a Leica camera I want a FF with all modern features, I use my iphone as camera very often and it is not a 24x36 but as I said before the M240 will certainly be my last Leica If I sell my M and buy a Sony A7r or s the Sony QX will be the best complement Edited September 14, 2014 by erick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicatraveller Posted September 14, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted September 14, 2014 As to the OP: it might be rather awkward to handle. I think it will join many other Rube Goldberg constructions by disappearing quietly from the market within the year, leaving a small enthusiastic group of users orphaned. i found also this sistem of "mountable" adapater ugly and not practical, maybe it was much better some cover with integrated the mount , i have seen something like this just for a sony phone, but not sure its compatible with this bigger QX1, and for other phone like iphone ? i dont want to spend 5 minutes to prepare the camera .... my concern is this system to mount all together .... advantage is that this QX1 can be kept in your jacket pocket or a small messenger bag regarding sensor....well this new 20MP sensor look newer generation then the old "sony" 16mp used by T...this drive me crazy...in a camera of this pricetag they could not afford to buy the 24mp sensor used by A600 or nikon D3200 :confused: anyway i think Cartier Bresson could have liked this system...i have seen a his interview on NY times few years before he died and he said that for him the best camera is a small portable camera (of course i guess with some "quality" since i dont think he will use a iphone for his project if he lived in this years:cool: Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted September 14, 2014 Share #9 Posted September 14, 2014 As to the OP: it might be rather awkward to handle. I think it will join many other Rube Goldberg constructions by disappearing quietly from the market within the year, leaving a small enthusiastic group of users orphaned. Exactly the contrary will happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted September 14, 2014 Share #10 Posted September 14, 2014 anyway i think Cartier Bresson could have liked this system...i have seen a his interview on NY times few years before he died and he said that for him the best camera is a small portable camera (of course i guess with some "quality" since i dont think he will use a iphone for his project if he lived in this years:cool: The quality is good enough for photography, no needs to have a noctilux today Cartier Bresson will certainly never use a Leica M Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 14, 2014 Share #11 Posted September 14, 2014 You really dont see the BIG difference ?the QX is not a body it is an iphone extension You can use an iphone as menu and display, the Leica T is 1000 years behind it cost 300€ and so many advantages over the Leica T If I buy a Leica camera I want a FF with all modern features, I use my iphone as camera very often and it is not a 24x36 but as I said before the M240 will certainly be my last Leica If I sell my M and buy a Sony A7r or s the Sony QX will be the best complement Be happy Indeed I see a big difference. A novelty not a camera.. It is interesting to read the discussion on DPreview. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted September 14, 2014 Share #12 Posted September 14, 2014 A novelty not a camera one of the most interesting concept since many years in hardware-camera Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 14, 2014 Share #13 Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) Indeed, the eye of the beholder. The modular concept is nothing new, Ricoh pioneered this, or maybe even Leica with the DMR, in a way. Edited September 14, 2014 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted September 14, 2014 Share #14 Posted September 14, 2014 The modular concept is nothing new, Ricoh pioneered this, or maybe even Leica with the DMR, in a way. its very differenthere you use one of the most advanced software on a perfect screen to shoot but let's see the future Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 14, 2014 Share #15 Posted September 14, 2014 Here we differ. I have an intense dislike of arm's length shooting; it is too wobbly, and no screen in the world can replace the directness of an optical viewfinder. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted September 14, 2014 Share #16 Posted September 14, 2014 (edited) no screen in the world can replace the directness of an optical viewfinder. I prefer EVF than OVF 1000 times Edited September 14, 2014 by erick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jankap Posted September 15, 2014 Share #17 Posted September 15, 2014 I am also very interested do you think that a Metabones Leica M Mount Lens will work to use M lenses ? I don´t believe M-lenses can be metaboned. You mean the lens booster? See the home page of Metabones, no M-lenses for the E-mount. A pity, but technical not solvable. Too less air (place). Jan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2014 Share #18 Posted September 15, 2014 ... today Cartier Bresson will certainly never use a Leica M He would be 106. I agree with you, it is a pity he's gone. But during his last years, due to his age he used a Leica CM, which was not the most compact one, but most auto-everything for that era. Essentially: it had a viewfinder. How else could he have composed (= la géométrie ) ? It's good you make the affirmation, what he would not use. But there is doubt: he used a film M for landscape pühotography. And he never used a sub-miniature camera, that can be hidden in a cigarette pack. Those were the dated equivallents of the QX1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2014 Share #19 Posted September 15, 2014 ... today Cartier Bresson will certainly never use a Leica M He would be 106. I agree with you, it is a pity he's gone. But during his last years, due to his age he used a Leica CM, which was not the most compact one, but most auto-everything for that era. Essentially: it had a viewfinder. How else could he have composed (= la géométrie ) ? It's good you make the affirmation, what he would not use. It is difficult to know what someone would not use under these circumstances (106, if still alive). But there is doubt: he used a film M for landscape pühotography. And he never used a miniature camera, that can be hidden in a cigarette pack. Those were the dated equivallents of the QX1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicatraveller Posted September 15, 2014 Author Share #20 Posted September 15, 2014 He would be 106. And he never used a sub-miniature camera, that can be hidden in a cigarette pack. Those were the dated equivallents of the QX1. i dont agree...i last age he used a Leica MINILUX zoom (sub-compact automatic zoom camera) just google Cartier bresson leica minilux ....there are also many photos of him with his minilux translated today? well i can guess in a Panasonic LX100 i think he will not use a bigger camera Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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