sisoje Posted November 1, 2013 Share #1 Posted November 1, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) My "way of shooting" was always the same. Regardless of what type of film was behind the lens. The "way I see the world around" was/is the same regardless. My views and style changed of course because I got older and matured as a human, not because my camera has memory card instead of a roll or sheet of film... FOTOGRAFIA INC. | Somehow shooting film today is "cooler"? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mmradman Posted November 1, 2013 Share #2 Posted November 1, 2013 Stevo, super crno bjele, narocito seoski prizori iz Vojvodine/Srbije/Slavonije? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted November 1, 2013 Share #3 Posted November 1, 2013 Sorry - I don't get the point. I like your pictures, though. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spydrxx Posted November 1, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 1, 2013 Interesting works. Many of us, who began with film when digital wasn't even a futuristic dream in the comic books, have "matured in our style" but continue to use both interchangeably. Admittedly I use digital probably 85% of the time these days, but I still love those old rangefinders and TLRs...like you, not so much the darkroom chemicals though. However, the self confidence I gained thru learning how to properly and economically shoot film, has prevailed in my digital work as well. In over 10 years, I don't think I've shot in continuous mode more than 5-6 times...I just keep thinking "what if I was shooting film...just blew a whole roll". 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted November 15, 2013 Share #5 Posted November 15, 2013 X ray and security have rendered film useless for many applications. It is up to the user to learn to handle film properly. Dust spots do not come with the territory. Fix previously used is a big culprit people mistake for dust. The silver precipitates out and sticks to the next film like glue and does not wash off. Air and water filters and dust free lab are required. Commercial processors are disappearing fast. Film will go the way of the dodo bird. Learn the process and enjoy will you can. A well crafted print is a thing to behold. As much as a painting on the wall. I do both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyleicaR4M5 Posted November 15, 2013 Share #6 Posted November 15, 2013 I love shooting film, so much so that I plopped down a chunk of money for a beautiful M5 and 35mm 'cron. There's no doubt in my mind that shooting film will sharpen your ability to compose better shots. Also, I find it more pleasurable to shoot my film Leica than my digital Leica and Nikon. Oh, the convenience of digital is remarkable.....so remarkable that I got bored with it. Go out for the day, shoot with the modern dSLR (or modern compact), come home, put the card in the computer, sprinkle some magic dust on the images, post to Flickr or Facebook, done and easy! In fact, it's so easy, a caveman can do it In any case, I use both digital and film but will continue to favor film. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted November 15, 2013 Share #7 Posted November 15, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) X ray and security have rendered film useless for many applications. Except in reality there are so few cases proven that it is more an urban myth than something to get your knickers in a twist about. Take film through airports in hand luggage and nothing will happen to it, and even if posting film there will be an infinitesimal number of times it could be scanned to destruction. It just never happens except in the very few cases that may or may not be attributed to X-Rays, which then gain prominence on the internet on the basis that bad news is good copy and gets attention. The best bet is to wave your arms around and make a cry of panic, get it out of your system, and then just get on and shoot film Steve 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gilgamesh Posted December 10, 2013 Share #8 Posted December 10, 2013 If you look at the prestigious photographic awards, and some of the better known agencies, you will see 6x6, 5x4 and 10x8 winning hands-down. The future is film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipus Posted December 10, 2013 Share #9 Posted December 10, 2013 Except in reality there are so few cases proven that it is more an urban myth than something to get your knickers in a twist about. Take film through airports in hand luggage and nothing will happen to it, and even if posting film there will be an infinitesimal number of times it could be scanned to destruction. It just never happens except in the very few cases that may or may not be attributed to X-Rays, which then gain prominence on the internet on the basis that bad news is good copy and gets attention. The best bet is to wave your arms around and make a cry of panic, get it out of your system, and then just get on and shoot film Steve I agree. I have never had a film fogged in hand luggage. Moreover, to enter my place of work we have to have our bags xrayed by security. My cameras go through the scanners twice a day at least. Not a single fogged film in 10+ years. The xray machines used for scanning hold luggage are stronger as I understand it so it's probably a bad idea to put film in checked bags. On the point of using film, though. I wholeheartedly agree. I just dislike digital and the fake look it gives. Just my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted December 10, 2013 Share #10 Posted December 10, 2013 Even with my Phase One P65 there are at times that I just hate the look of digital. I agree it looks fake and I don't feel it's appropriate for everything and it's not a case of post processing to make it look more like film. I wish I could strike a happy medium and shoot film more, but going back is very costly in time, workflow and money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted December 10, 2013 Share #11 Posted December 10, 2013 My luck as a hobby photographer I guess. Love to shoot my film Leica's and my Hasselblad. I've tried plugins like SilverEfex but in the end I simply prefer the looks of film. Depending on how much you shoot it isn't that expensive anyways. I simply use the money for upgrading film bodies for rolls of film. Wouldn't mind to have a digital M8 / M9 for the times I want to see the output immediately, though... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mijo Posted December 10, 2013 Share #12 Posted December 10, 2013 I agree. I have never had a film fogged in hand luggage. Moreover, to enter my place of work we have to have our bags xrayed by security. My cameras go through the scanners twice a day at least. Not a single fogged film in 10+ years. The xray machines used for scanning hold luggage are stronger as I understand it so it's probably a bad idea to put film in checked bags. On the point of using film, though. I wholeheartedly agree. I just dislike digital and the fake look it gives. Just my opinion. I travel a lot for work and I am constantly in and out of airports. I've also started shooting more with film than digital, but carry both an M6 and an M-E when on travel. I've noticed more and more that TSA is posting signage on their x-ray scanners used for passenger screening that film faster than 800 should be hand checked instead of going through the x-ray scanner. My understanding is that the x-ray scanners used for checked baggage is even worse on film than the x-ray scanners used at the passenger screening checkpoints. Hand checking film is simple enough and I give them all of my film and not just the rolls that are faster than 800. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted December 10, 2013 Share #13 Posted December 10, 2013 Kodak has been giving baggage X ray advice for years. Baggage X-ray Scanning Effects on Film BTW all photography is fake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted December 10, 2013 Share #14 Posted December 10, 2013 two things .... first, you are absolutely correct about film and x-rays. i was told by tsa to bring film on board, machines used on luggage being checked is a lot stronger. i have used fillm up to 800 and none has been damaged by the flight. i think my m9 sensor was damaged with a dead pixel twice after long flights from xrays in the air (one trip ny to la is equivalent to taking one chest xray, according to an doctor friend of mine), but the effect on the m9 could be urban legend. as for cooler or not, i shoot an m9 and also film (m6 and m4). grew up shooting film. now that we can perfectly reproduce what if in front of us with digital and much more rapidly, digital makes all the sense for reportage and commercial work, etc. i think, though, that now that an hd reproduction is possible, the is some need to have something where the look is not perfect and in that there is a tactile transformation of reality into something different based on a process we hold in our hands. does that make film cooler? not sure, but to me it restores a charm that is lost with digital for those uses where charm matters more than speed and an exact reproduction of what is in front of the lens Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted December 10, 2013 Share #15 Posted December 10, 2013 I am just completing a book (couple of weeks to go) "12 Month's With a Leica 111f." The year is technically up at Xmas. So far I have edited the years film shooting down to 80+ images for the book. I have had such a buzz shooting film through that camera. Nothing could equal the exhilaration the combo of that camera and film have given me. I am also blown away by the diversity of images I managed to capture during that time. Until you collect a coverage such as I have done, you tend not to appreciate just what you and the camera actually achieve. I am very fortunate because I have a well set up darkroom capable of processing both B&W and colour materials. This is becoming more critical as proper labs are closing down and having low throughput's. When properly set up, handling chemistry is not really a chore, it can be quite satisfying. The whole darkroom process adds something to one's creative spirit that will never be achieved by digital. I am not denigrating digital here, just praising analog. I do use an extensive amout of digital and appreciate its virtues, but they are separate and distinct from film. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted February 20, 2014 Share #16 Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) I don't miss the darkroom at all. Don't get me wrong, at the time it was enjoyable and I derived great satisfaction from it. In some ways I like the look of film and photographic paper. I like the concept that it is "hand made" from start to finish. We also had a quite a few great local labs. But, I don't want to go back, chapter closed and equipment sold (ok, I still have 3 Leica film cameras and some others). At this point in time, digital is immensely more satisfying and immediate, for me. The M is by far my favorite camera. The output is by far better than anything I've been able to do previously with the format. Nope, digital is cool. Film is something else... becoming a different medium completely. Probably a better way to state it, digital is becoming a different medium. Ten years from now digital imaging will be who knows what. But, film will still be the same. Something comforting about that. The question I'd like to know, is there going to be a day when film will no longer be made by anybody? Probably. When? Edited February 20, 2014 by RickLeica 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen.w Posted February 21, 2014 Share #17 Posted February 21, 2014 The question I'd like to know, is there going to be a day when film will no longer be made by anybody? Probably. When?Anecdotally, I would say that there is still a steady demand for film -- the market, having fallen through the floor, seems to have stabilised and maybe even increased a bit. My local lab does a roaring trade in C41, B/W and E6, and processes all of them. The Tri-X stock in particular is sold out almost as soon as it has come in. However, I was in there at the beginning of the week (admittedly to pick up a new M-E) and had to bite my tongue when I overheard one of the sales guys telling an enthusiastic customer with a bag of just-purchased film who had wandered over to the display of DSLRS that film is completely dead -- citing the woes of Kodak. If anything kills it, it will be that attitude and misinformation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonycamco Posted February 28, 2014 Share #18 Posted February 28, 2014 LONG LIVE FILM !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 28, 2014 Share #19 Posted February 28, 2014 Hope so Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 28, 2014 Share #20 Posted February 28, 2014 two things .... first, you are absolutely correct about film and x-rays. i was told by tsa to bring film on board, machines used on luggage being checked is a lot stronger. i have used fillm up to 800 and none has been damaged by the flight. i think my m9 sensor was damaged with a dead pixel twice after long flights from xrays in the air (one trip ny to la is equivalent to taking one chest xray, according to an doctor friend of mine), but the effect on the m9 could be urban legend. as for cooler or not, i shoot an m9 and also film (m6 and m4). grew up shooting film. now that we can perfectly reproduce what if in front of us with digital and much more rapidly, digital makes all the sense for reportage and commercial work, etc. i think, though, that now that an hd reproduction is possible, the is some need to have something where the look is not perfect and in that there is a tactile transformation of reality into something different based on a process we hold in our hands. does that make film cooler? not sure, but to me it restores a charm that is lost with digital for those uses where charm matters more than speed and an exact reproduction of what is in front of the lens Your sensor may well have been damaged by radiation - in fact it almost certainly was- but not from the X-ray machine. That is far too weak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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