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Old 09/01/12, 07:14   #101 (permalink)
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Interestingly the advertorial claims it is reminiscent of a Contax, but I think it is a styling copy of a Bessa.
it borrows from a lot of cameras:

the viewfinder's outermost edge is from the m9 titanium.
the grip is a blend of the xpan and olympus e-p1.
the viewfinder mode(?) lever looks like the self-timer from the rollei xf 35.
the sloping control deck basically comes from the olympus pen f.
the af mode switch is like a backwards version of the meter mode switch on the rolleiflex hy6.

it looks a bit odd and unbalanced with the viewfinder so close to the edge, but that should minimize the intrusion of lenses; these af lenses look wider than m-mount or contax g lenses.

could have been worse, could have been better!

i hope the autofocus is good enough that we can live without scale and zone focusing, which is probably going to be an afterthought to fuji's engineers. keep your fingers crossed.
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Old 09/01/12, 07:24   #102 (permalink)
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I am looking forward to Leica MILC.
It does not stretch the realms of possibility that the L-MILC may be a rebadged Fuji XP1
with M mount.
i totally forgot about the leica mirrorless! it would be neat if leica made something like the x-pro1, only better.

1) fly-by-wire focusing tabs on the lenses to set "snap" focus distance, with focusing scales on the lenses. (i suppose it can have an af-on button on the back.)
2) aperture ring on the front end of the lens, rings and dials turn in the usual direction.
3) simple, straightforward user interface.

what else...?
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Old 09/01/12, 10:55   #103 (permalink)
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i totally forgot about the leica mirrorless! it would be neat if leica made something like the x-pro1, only better.

Leica MILC or Fuji MILC will be a nice companion to M9, M10.
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Old 09/01/12, 11:55   #104 (permalink)
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Who cares? The Fuji isn't a Leica and can't take classic images like a Leica. Just another Asian gizmo with no soul.

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A person with soul can impart soul upon many things.
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You really can't take a classic image without a Leica.
So brave of you to say this in a leica forum. Why not say it in dpreview opentalk or rangefinder forum.
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Old 09/01/12, 12:01   #105 (permalink)
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It is said with some regularity on those forums - perhaps their tongue-in-cheek detector sytem is more sophisticated probably built by Fuji, not by Leica
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Old 09/01/12, 12:06   #106 (permalink)
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At first I thought he was being tongue in cheek. Made me laugh.

Then the rest of the post denigrates so many classic photographers who used cameras other than leica.

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You really can't take a classic image without a Leica. Heck, even a Voigt/Zeiss lens makes it difficult. The incessant "features" like movie mode, live view, high-ISO, AF distract from photography and make the equipment soulless. There's good reason Getty images used to only accept Leica compact cameras for submissions -- you simply can't take classic images with other brands. Remember, it's the chef not the pan. No true chef would use anything but the best, and that will always be Leica.
My original response poked fun at the SP12 but got deleted by a mod
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Old 09/01/12, 12:07   #107 (permalink)
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Pretty sure Sp12 can explain what a classic image is. I bet he's prepared his conference speach already. I'm all ears.
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Old 09/01/12, 16:49   #108 (permalink)
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oh, and there is a strong rumor that Canon's mirror less camera system, to be introduced this year, will be APS-H.
Lots of nice cameras this year.

Canon G1X with 1.8 crop sensor (larger than m4/3) 28-112mm f2.8-f5.6
Canon PowerShot G1 X Preview: 1. Introduction: Digital Photography Review
Canon APS-H MILC quite probable.

Leica aps-c MILC
Leica M10.

Fuji aps-c MILC
Fuji MF mirrorless quite probable.

Samsung NX aps-c MILC, one of which is a rumoured rangefinder style.




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Lots of nice cameras this year.
Canon G1X with 1.8 crop sensor (larger than m4/3) 28-112mm f2.8-f5.6...
Thanks for sharing. Perhaps i've found a successor to my good old Digilux 1 at last.
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At first I thought he was being tongue in cheek. Made me laugh.

Then the rest of the post denigrates so many classic photographers who used cameras other than leica.
Really? Do you seriously believe Getty images only accepted DLux3 images? And that your Boeuf a la Mode was made using a Leica casserole?
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Default Fuji X-Pro 1....curious

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As a M9 shooter (amazing camera) I am curious if other M9ers have decided to purchase this camera, and if so what has tipped the balance in favor of this purchase. M8 and other shooters please jump in also.
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Old 09/01/12, 19:04   #112 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing. Perhaps i've found a successor to my good old Digilux 1 at last.

You welcome.

I like cameras, from any brand, if there is something for me to like in them.
From end of 2010 and just before today Fuji was the only other main brand who offered cameras (X100, X10, X-P1) which were interesting aesthetically and functionally.
Now that there are other interesting cameras at hand and in the horizon it is a most interesting time (for those who can afford).
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At this very moment this camera is just a rumor.
I wait, until I can feel something in my hand.
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Ruben, frankly, would you tell such or such pro photog you respect that the M9 they're using for their job is not a professional tool?
You can use a movile phone's camera for a profesional application, but that camera is not a tool designed for professional use. The same goes with the M9.

The Leicas are cameras for people who live for photography, and not for people living from photography.
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At this very moment this camera is just a rumor.
I wait, until I can feel something in my hand.
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It is official now...

La X-Pro1 y tres
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So the M2 was a professional tool and the M9 is not one anymore if i follow you right. What basic changes occurred in the meatime according to you?
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So the M2 was a professional tool and the M9 is not one anymore if i follow you right. What basic changes occurred in the meatime according to you?
The change is how a camera is designed. For a professional tool you ask a professional. The D4 and 1DX are action cameras, and they have asked to the professionals. The 5D Mark III will be different because, even if many pros use it, most buyers will not be professionals. The market for that camera is different. The M9 follows the same logic, but in this case the proportion of professionals is for sure even lower. Leica will not place a butron here or there because a professional asks for it. This was the difference between Leica and Nikon during the Korean war, and you know the result.
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Looks like they're targeting wedding pros
Plans for Leica M adaptor
Wide range of primes and zooms in 2013 including 14mm (21mm equiv) so hopefully a 35 equiv too.
Fujifilm unveils the X-Pro1 mirrorless camera at CES | CES 2012: Digital photo and video - CNET Blogs
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Old 09/01/12, 22:57   #120 (permalink)
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Fujifilm X-Pro1 | Features - The Fuji Guys | Fujifilm Canada

Official hands on videos.

Now that hopefully Leica & Canon may release MILC, we may be spoilt for choice.
I would want to test all three at the end of 2012 before deciding.
Best things come to those who wait as it were.

One thing Fuji do so well is skin tones.
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