Question about C1 Resolution when editing

[wparsonsgisnet]

I have a question for the C1 monsters.

When I work on a dng in C1, it is very clear in the central portion of my screen until I do something like change the exposure curves. Then the image is not so clear anymore.

This makes it difficult to make critical esthetic decisions, delaying the decisive moment even further.

Is there a setting I need to tweak to make working images clearer in C1?

I am using C1 LE in a windoze environment (plenty of ram, tho).

Tnx.

[scott kirkpatrick]

I'm not sure what problem you are describing, but C1 has two sharp preview settings. What they call 100% is really quarter scale. If you go to 400% you get a full developed raw file of whatever portion fits on the screen. It's like making the "focus" window full screen. You have to wait a moment for each change to get digested and the image refreshed. If you make your preview bigger but not 400%, then I believe it never gets as sharp.

scott

[wparsonsgisnet]

I have been trying to figure out why the central display of the image is sometimes not clear in C1 LE. I have discovered that at different image sizes such as 400% the image becomes unclear while it is clear at 410%.

This is problematic because I like to enlarge a portion of the image being edited so I can see the effects of exposure corrections.

Changing the magnification can fix this, but it seems odd that magnification sizes can cause the image to become jagged and unclear.

[robertwright]

I don't understand the quarter scale comment, 100% is 100% to me, 400% has jaggies.

IMO the entire UI of captureone is borked, you never really know what you are looking at. I just discovered you can option click the magnifying glass to go to 100% in the preview, however it does not apply sharpening, so you need to use the sharpen preview, which you can resize, to see the image. If you had dual monitors it could work well, the preview and all the tools on one monitor and the focus preview on its own monitor, showing the full image at 100%

the reason the image does not look sharp at all scale percentages is that the monitor has to interpolate the image for inbetween scaling percentages. Just like in photoshop, only 25,50 and 100% are true representations.

Unfortunately for capture one, they make it hard to set a known scaling percentage. The slider is useless imo.

[Jamie Roberts]

Originally Posted by robertwright

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IMO the entire UI of captureone is borked, you never really know what you are looking at. I just discovered you can option click the magnifying glass to go to 100% in the preview, however it does not apply sharpening, so you need to use the sharpen preview, which you can resize, to see the image. If you had dual monitors it could work well, the preview and all the tools on one monitor and the focus preview on its own monitor, showing the full image at 100%
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Heh--interesting word, "borked." I'll have to use that one.

FWIW, the ONLY way to evaluate exactly the sharpness, contrast, etc.. that capture one is applying is to look at the FOCUS tab.

Make it big if you want to, but that's where the program is actually, and accurately, previewing the output you'll get if you develop.

The CENTER screen is only a fast preview. It's more accurate at 100% than at any other zoom setting, but again, the only way currently to see the real output is the FOCUS window on the FOCUS tab.

There, did I capitalize focus enough?

This might change in the next C1, but till that happens, happy focusing!

[robertwright]

I know I have been pretty down on C1 for its workflow, the results are good, and I do keep it around for some of my higher iso shots if I want noise reduction. I just think they are very behind the curve in usability, it is fine if you want to work on one image, but try to wrangle 50 and it hurts.

Another interesting C1 "find" is that you don't need to pay phase for C1pro. You can download their trial version and use it to edit your work, even after the trial. Just click through the nag screens. All the trial is limited in is export. So we all have C1LE, just open LE up at the same time, and point it to the same session, and you can now process what you edited in C1pro with all the bells and whistles, saving the ridiculous 499 upgrade price.

easypeasy.

[Jamie Roberts]

Originally Posted by robertwright

I know I have been pretty down on C1 for its workflow, the results are good, and I do keep it around for some of my higher iso shots if I want noise reduction. I just think they are very behind the curve in usability, it is fine if you want to work on one image, but try to wrangle 50 and it hurts.

Another interesting C1 "find" is that you don't need to pay phase for C1pro. You can download their trial version and use it to edit your work, even after the trial. Just click through the nag screens. All the trial is limited in is export. So we all have C1LE, just open LE up at the same time, and point it to the same session, and you can now process what you edited in C1pro with all the bells and whistles, saving the ridiculous 499 upgrade price.

easypeasy.

Um, sure, Robert.

But if you're going to use all those bells and whistles for your 5k plus camera, you should probably pay Phase $500 for their efforts, no? Especially when you'll probably get like, 3 major upgrades or whatever they're offering right now. Phase is good about that.

As for ease of wrangling files, I have a dissenting view.

So far, C1 is the *only* thing I use to proof 1500-2000 files at a time from a variety of cameras.

All the others are in the dust, as far as speed goes. Nothing renders DNGs faster IMO, and once you get used to the batch processing and ease of copying settings from one key shot to many key shots, well, C1 just flies.

You can actually proof and develop at the same time too, while a lot of raw processors essentially lock up (or slow down so much it's not worth it) on output.

[robertwright]

well when Raw Developer can do the same for 99$, then no, I won't pay Phase 500-it is insane. Phase is still jacked on their first to market luxury view of the raw conversion arena, again, my opinion only, and would do well to come down to earth every now and again.

btw, editing 2000 files in C1 requires space for 2000 more same sized previews...which is why it is so fast, it is a HD HOGG

but gigabytes are cheap compared to a 5000 dollar camera and a 500 dollar raw processor. right?

Lr offers background processing of files, I wish Aperture would figure that out.

I know a lot of people like C1, but imo it was not the "partner" for Leica on this camera, C1 (to me) is about tethered shooting in studio, where it excels. And to me the Leica is about editing stories and picture sequences, something that you cannot do in C1 at all, but Lr and Aperture make easy. I do like the amount of detail C1 can extract from the M8 files, but with the exception of high iso, Lr can do the same, and I expect Aperture to work well also once raw support is complete.