mark_a_h Posted July 14, 2006 Share #1 Posted July 14, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I realized just now I've never tried a moon shot. I'm going out to the woods in a couple of weeks - a week before a full moon. Any wise words of advice? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 14, 2006 Posted July 14, 2006 Hi mark_a_h, Take a look here Any tips for shooting the moon with a D2?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dugby Posted July 14, 2006 Share #2 Posted July 14, 2006 As a fellow D2 owner, I can say, you will likely get a better shot from either the International Space Station, or buying a Digilux2-to-Hubble telescope adaptor. (you can probably find one of these on ebay or the street markets in Shanghai !!!). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted July 14, 2006 Share #3 Posted July 14, 2006 Sorry, I should not be so frivolous with my poor sense of humour. One thing I have found in the deep west of Australia while I shoot regularly. The moon often appears 4x-to-6x larger just after sunset, AND when the moon is low on the horizon in the east. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_a_h Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted July 14, 2006 Oh, we have trees here in Canada, so I may have to wait untill after the Moon clears them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjs Posted July 14, 2006 Share #5 Posted July 14, 2006 I've had the best luck with the moon at twilight times, and with phases other than the full disc. A tripod would be good obviously, but handheld is possible with a brighter moon. You won't get much magnification of the surface detail with the D2, and the digital zoom doesn't produce very good results. The best use of the D2 with moon shots I think might be where the moon is in context with some landscape element. Here's one from northern Wisconsin from about a year ago: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1516-any-tips-for-shooting-the-moon-with-a-d2/?do=findComment&comment=12808'>More sharing options...
dugby Posted July 14, 2006 Share #6 Posted July 14, 2006 The trees in Australia are not too bad, it's the Kangaroo's and Aborigines with spears that we have to watch out for after dark...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 14, 2006 Share #7 Posted July 14, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dingoes, Dugby, Dingoes! 1. Bear in mind that the surface of the full moon is getting exactly the same amount of light as the Earth does at noon - sun the same distance away, straight overhead. So a 'correct' exposure at ISO 100 would be 1/100th at f/16 or thereabouts. HOWEVER - the actual color of the moon is a darkish gray-brown (about like your average rocks anywhere), so that's how it will appear given that "correct" exposure. To get the 'silvery' look you need to overexpose a bit. Use the magic of digital to try some brackets 1, 2, and 3 stops over and see what you're getting. 2. The moon is not actually bigger near the horizon, that's an optical illusion. With the Digilux's max. zoom of 90mm the moon will be a small part of the frame, so having something else in the picture and having a little light in the sky, as Johnjs shows so well, is a good idea. Even a few clouds can be an enhancement, although obviously we will hope you don't get a full overcast that night! 3. The moon is 250,000 miles from Earth (average). The ISS is 250 miles from Earth. So shooting from the ISS would make the Moon look about 0.1% larger. But there would be less atmospheric interference. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted July 14, 2006 Share #8 Posted July 14, 2006 Dingoes, Dugby, Dingoes! Since an incident almost 30 years ago, the Australian Supreme Court ruled that Dingoes prefer younger meat..... so I guess I'm safer (....sadly). 3. The moon is 250,000 miles from Earth (average). The ISS is 250 miles from Earth. So shooting from the ISS would make the Moon look about 0.1% larger. But there would be less atmospheric interference. Agreed, it's the significantly reduced affect of atmospheric distortion as to why the Hubble Telescope is 350 miles from Earth...... Whilst we're on the topic of the moon, one can get the best detail of the moon's surface if you zoom right into http://moon.google.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilot Posted July 14, 2006 Share #9 Posted July 14, 2006 Depends on the kind of moon shots you want. With a D2 it's going to be lots of scenery and a tiny moon. Even with the 420mm lens on my FZ30 the moon is fairly small. To get a full frame moon you need a lot of magnification. I used a 1000mm telescope with a 36mm eyepiece and a Leicaflex hanging off the end to get a full frame shot. With the FZ30, I mount the camera directly against the eyepiece, at full zoom to avoid vignetting. A good exposure would be 1/250 at f/5.6 or f/8 with ISO 100 which is similar to Adan's example. I can't get f/16 with the FZ30, and in any case the lens is diffraction limited at all apertures, so f/5.6 is probably the optimum. Bryan Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtharvie Posted July 14, 2006 Share #10 Posted July 14, 2006 I used my FZ-10 at full extention for this photo. This was taken at the Spring Solstice . . . at moon rise . . . the moon seems much bigger at this time of year on the Canadian Prairie. I used this photo on the IBD Manitoba web site . . . the building is the research centre here in Winnipeg. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1516-any-tips-for-shooting-the-moon-with-a-d2/?do=findComment&comment=13114'>More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 14, 2006 Share #11 Posted July 14, 2006 Rubbish, it's the spiders that you _really_ have to look out for in Oz. Killer kangaroos are tame in comparison ;-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted July 14, 2006 Share #12 Posted July 14, 2006 Mark, Andy said it all, except that you can practice now for then. And, of course, you get to see what you shot right after you did it, so how can you miss? Don't you love (1) digital, and (2) the D2!!! Tripod, suds, bug repellant, these are more important. Pack your kit carefully. And, give us a look-see when you're done -- thanks in advance. Regards, Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etanguero Posted July 14, 2006 Share #13 Posted July 14, 2006 Rubbish, it's the spiders that you _really_ have to look out for in Oz. Killer kangaroos are tame in comparison ;-) sorry to correct you: it's the snakes! 7, or 8, or 9 or even 10 of the 10 most poisonous snakes live in australia! link with some info great thread this one, anyway: interesting facts about moon-photography mixed with fantastica aussie humor! g'nite! eT Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_a_h Posted July 14, 2006 Author Share #14 Posted July 14, 2006 yes, lots of good facts on moonshots and australian lies. It's a little hard to believe you can't get at least some moon detail with the D2's "digital" zoom and a cropped full frame shot that wouldn't be high quality, but more just for fun. there are cheaper point and shoot cameras out there doing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael-IIIf Posted July 14, 2006 Share #15 Posted July 14, 2006 When I first glanced at the title of this thread I thought someone was taking the p*ss and asking for Leica camera advice for a trip to the moon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etanguero Posted July 14, 2006 Share #16 Posted July 14, 2006 When I first glanced at the title of this thread I thought someone was taking the p*ss and asking for Leica camera advice for a trip to the moon. outch, that was a painfull one: hasselblad has been up there ... leica lenses do not fit. eT Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted July 14, 2006 Share #17 Posted July 14, 2006 If you're photographing the moon itself adapt the 'sunny 16' rule and use sunny '11' :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etanguero Posted July 14, 2006 Share #18 Posted July 14, 2006 yes, lots of good facts on moonshots and australian lies. It's a little hard to believe you can't get at least some moon detail with the D2's "digital" zoom If one thing is for sure: forget about any in-camera 'digital' zoom!!! better shoot 'as if' you'd be using a stronger telelenns (ie. avoid shaking, shorter exposure time, etc.) and center the object of interest ... but do any, yes any, cropping [=digital zooming] later on the computer!!! andreas feininger used to tell us these 'poor man's tele-lens trick'! and it's better to apply this technique with a good short lens than a bad long one! eT Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ade909 Posted July 14, 2006 Share #19 Posted July 14, 2006 Dugby - that google moon link is amazing, thanks for posting it - you're right, if you zoom right in you can almost see Neil Armstrong's footprints! Ade ; ) http://moon.google.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted July 14, 2006 Share #20 Posted July 14, 2006 This is the DMR + Telyt 6,8/400mm and it works.... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Jan 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Jan ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/1516-any-tips-for-shooting-the-moon-with-a-d2/?do=findComment&comment=13475'>More sharing options...
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