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Old 01/26/07, 09:28 AM   #41 (permalink)
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There is of course a perfectly simple way of solving this dilemma: Buy a 75 Summilux and a 90 Summicron apo. That one has exactly the same character as the 75 Summicron, only even a bit more so.....
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Old 01/26/07, 10:07 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I think that's because we want the Lux look in the cron package. You and I have the same decision to make, Noctilux or 75 Summicron, it's interesting to note you have the 50 Summilux Asph and your still searching.
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Old 01/26/07, 10:45 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I think that's because we want the Lux look in the cron package.
That's hitting the nail on the head: exactly!
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Old 01/26/07, 11:15 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Jaap, I have considered that, but the trouble is that those are two of the largest lenses in the M lineup. A 75 Cron and 75 Lux is much more compact, and a 75 Cron and non-Asph 50 Lux even smaller...
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Old 01/26/07, 01:02 PM   #45 (permalink)
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There is of course a perfectly simple way of solving this dilemma: Buy a 75 Summilux and a 90 Summicron apo. That one has exactly the same character as the 75 Summicron, only even a bit more so.....
Jaap these were my thoughts also get the Lux 75mm and the 90 apo but now i just jumped size and weight from 75 cron and 90 elmarit which i do like the elmarit also. Well i need to e-bay my 28, 50 and 80 R glass and than go from there . But I do pick up speed on both lenses
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I think that's because we want the Lux look in the cron package. You and I have the same decision to make, Noctilux or 75 Summicron, it's interesting to note you have the 50 Summilux Asph and your still searching.

I like that 75mm focal length. I love my 80 lux on the DMR so if i sold the 80 i have to that look on one lens. The 50 lux is beautiful but it does not have that softy look per say.

Something to think about , no real hurry either pretty darn happy with what i have now
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Old 01/27/07, 08:45 AM   #47 (permalink)
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This is one of the my most anticipated thread.recently. Especially lookinf forward to the Lux pictures from you folks.

I post one here, my father reading his newspaper just the other morning, M8 - 75 Cron Wide Open.

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Old 01/27/07, 12:18 PM   #48 (permalink)
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This is one of the my most anticipated thread.recently. Especially lookinf forward to the Lux pictures from you folks.

I post one here, my father reading his newspaper just the other morning, M8 - 75 Cron Wide Open.

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Matthew, here's a handheld low-contrast test picture I just made with the M8 + Summilux 75mm @ 1.4. There's not much sharpening involved, simply the utput from C1 cropped with Picture Window. As you can see, the Summilux is also a great performer wide open given that the focus is correct, the subject is not moving, the photographer is not moving, and the shutter speed is relatively high (in this case 1/250s).

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Wanted to add a 75lux/M8 shot to the mix.

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Old 01/27/07, 03:10 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Kurt that last one is fabulous ....!!
I love my lux but considered a trade for the cron strictly for size and weight ... even went to the shop today .... but i resisted ... the size/ weight difference was not as signifcant as i expected ... so the lux is here to stay, prefer the pictures from it anyhow!
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Dear Arne

Your capture is the classic 75 lux portrait, sharpness and creamy bokeh in great harmony at lower contrast than the Cron, reminding us the lux is just a magical design a quarter century ago. I agree its still the pinnacle portrait lens.

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and for "comparison": 90 Elmarit


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I really like the 75lux and the 75 fov.

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Old 01/29/07, 07:50 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I own a 75 lux. I would say it is cosmetically a little used. The filter threads are a little banged up and since I don't have a 60mm filter I dont know if it will easily screw on or not. However, the glass is pristine, no marks or scratches.

I would like to trade this lens for a 75cron aspherical, and because of the poor cosmetic condition of my 75 lux, I am willing to pay up to $500 in addition for a mint and possibly coded 75 cron.

If anybody is interested in this trade, please contact me soon since i will be posting the lens on ebay soon.
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Bernd, you are unlikely to find anyone to take such a deal. Although the 75 Lux costs over €3000 new, one can find it in great condition, sometimes even almost perfect, for around €1300, whereas the Cron costs over €2000, and is almost impossible to find second-hand.
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Old 01/29/07, 11:06 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Carsten, why do you think it is that the 75mm Summlux seems to nosedive in value? I had been considering one for the 30% off, but I'm having trouble actually doing it.
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I think there are quite a number on 75 Summiluxes on the market, as it is a bit of a specialist lens. The Summicron is "easier" to use, so they don't get dumped so often. Supply and demand. Just my 2cents...
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Old 01/29/07, 12:08 PM   #58 (permalink)
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Carsten, why do you think it is that the 75mm Summlux seems to nosedive in value? I had been considering one for the 30% off, but I'm having trouble actually doing it.
why dont you get yourself a used one?
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The 75 Lux has been around forever. I am planning to buy a 75 Cron new, and a 75 Lux second-hand, later. Even my dealer, Leica Berlin, recommended buying a nearly-new copy at around 1300 Euro, saying that it shouldn't be hard to find one. He is looking for me, and I will likely buy from him, since I can check it out first, and will almost certainly get the original packaging as well. I see others on eBay and in German photo magazine ads and for-sale listings and in other German photo stores with online presences. The 75 Lux is the last lens I would buy new, simply because it is so easy to get a much better price. If I owned one and had paid much more than 1300 Euro, I would probably not sell it, because that just isn't that much money compared to the quality of the lens.
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Old 01/29/07, 06:57 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Hi,

I bought a used one in mint condition from *Bay some weeks ago @ €1290, and indeed, they do appear there reasonably often; if you're not in a hurry, you should be able to grab a very nice one at that price...

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