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Old 15/09/10, 22:48   #1 (permalink)
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Anyone have one yet? Leica optics without the Leica Red Dot and price.

Just ordered one today because I want a Point-n-Shoot that handles RAW files.

Curious it anyone here has one yet, and can comment on its learning curve.
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Old 17/09/10, 09:22   #2 (permalink)
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tried one out in store with my SD card in. on getting home a viewing images my only real criticism was that the files seemed somewhat soft at the 90mm end of the zoom range apart from that seemed to be a step up from LX3
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I will definitely investigate your softness concern when the camera arrives. We'll need to see if this happens at all apertures. Perhaps in the camera store the light was dim forcing the camera to shoot wide-open at f/3.3? Modern zooms are asked to do miracles.
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Old 17/09/10, 21:31   #4 (permalink)
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I've had the Lx5 for a week and I've got to say I'm very impressed. It's a big improvement over the lx3. Low light performance is excellent especially at iso 400-1600. The only camera I can compare this to is the Nikon 35ti. I don't really use the zoom so this is less of an issue.
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Just sent the LX5 back to Panasonic. The zoom toggle switch could only be moved with a great deal of force. Otherwise, fantastic camera.
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Have had one since Thursday afternoon. Yesterday I went to the M9 workshop here in Atlanta and took the LX5 and M8 with me.
The LX5 is no M8 (or M9) but for what it is it is a good camera.
2 images I took with it on my walk from the 5 points Marta station to the hotel the workshop was held.
I am liking this camera.

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Anyone have one yet? Leica optics without the Leica Red Dot and price.
To be precise, Panasonic optics which are Leica branded. That they are happy enough for their name to be stamped on them makes them good enough for me.

I've had a few PanaLeica's and been happy with them all so far.
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Old 18/10/10, 07:43   #8 (permalink)
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I'm returning my LX5.
There is an issue with intermittent fuzzy pictures ( in places ) where focusing and camera shake are not to blame.
I'm not the only one to report these problems so it's something to watch for in your new DL5s
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Old 27/11/10, 07:53   #9 (permalink)
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I just ordered one today; it will arrive in three to five days. One of the intended uses is on an upcoming trip to India, where I'll be carrying the camera all over in dirty, dusty conditions. Not only don't I want to carry around as expensive a camera as my M8.2, but I'd rather not have to change lenses over there.

From what I've read on the internet, it seems like a good choice. For me, it came down to this camera or the Canon S95, and the Lumix has what I feel to be a better lens - and it's very important to me that I get all the "wide angle" that I can.
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I actually got a replacement LX5 and I'm quite happy with it.
I guess this will apply to the DLux5 as well but my recipe for successful shots with the LX5 is to keep NR to -2 and to stick to P/A/S/M modes.

The lens isn't quite as sharp ar my DLux4 but the increased zoom range ,better sensor and the fact I can use my GF-1's viewfinder goes a long way to compensate.
It's also got a better finish than my DLux4
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The lens isn't quite as sharp as my DLux4...
Interesting, but a question: how did you verify the sharpness? Did you use raw-files to check the sharpness of the pics of the two cameras? Because I think maybe in jpg mode the pics are influenced by internal sharpness process, which can be varied using the D-Lux 5. I do not know if the D-Lux 4 has this possibility, so maybe only raw-files are valid to compare the "optical sharpness", means: the lens itself.
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Old 28/11/10, 23:03   #12 (permalink)
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At a number of websites you can compare the optical performance of the LX3 and LX5 which is supposedly the same as the Leicas (dpreview.com is one)
That also agrees with my own finding that at 24mm the edge/corner softness of the LX5 is greater than the DLux4.
At 60mm I still think that the DLux4 has the advantage and at 90mm the LX5 lens seems at its poorest.
All based on RAW files.

It wouldn't put me off upgrading to the DLux5 because the lens and sensor together is better than the DLux4.
I'm still keeping my DLux4 though
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At a number of websites you can compare the optical performance of the LX3 and LX5 which is supposedly the same as the Leicas (dpreview.com is one)
That also agrees with my own finding that at 24mm the edge/corner softness of the LX5 is greater than the DLux4.
At 60mm I still think that the DLux4 has the advantage and at 90mm the LX5 lens seems at its poorest.
All based on RAW files.

It wouldn't put me off upgrading to the DLux5 because the lens and sensor together is better than the DLux4.
I'm still keeping my DLux4 though
Sure to keep Number 4 is also keeping the best of two worlds. But then you get the hassle which camera you take with you on a trip, and if you take both, which you take for a photo....

I am not an expert in optics, but maybe also one reason can be that the D-Lux 4 has a smaller zoom factor then the D-Lux 5 and so the lens is another construction?

If you have still both cameras and you don´t mind, just take some photos to compare here, that would be very interesting.

I do not trust the photos on some websites, because often they are post-processed by external software. I like more examples from "real life". When I look at my photos (from D-Lux 5) I cannot see that sharpness is worser at the edges. Maybe I did not look strong enough at my monitors 200% view

Would be nice to get some photos from you here for further and more concrete discuss.
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Just checking, before I do something "wrong". Are we allowed / supposed to post photos here if they were taken with a Leica designed lens on a Panasonic designed camera?

If so, is there any particular place where these should go, so they don't get mixed in with photos taken on other Leicas?
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Just checking, before I do something "wrong". Are we allowed / supposed to post photos here if they were taken with a Leica designed lens on a Panasonic designed camera?

If so, is there any particular place where these should go, so they don't get mixed in with photos taken on other Leicas?
Where is the problem? You can also post photos taken with one of these other company, I think the brand name starts with "C" and ends with "anon"... if they show someting to explain in comparance to a Leica cam. And by the way: the D-Lux 5 is Leica design, only the LX-5 is a Panasonic design.
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lx-5 first weekend, shot in jpeg before apple released the raw update for aperture.







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i will add ive only had it in the field 3 weeks now and ive already broken the batter/sd card door. dont ask me how, its a crappy weak piece of plastic that cracked somehow. and im not hard on my equipment. also, the screen is completely scratched from normal pocket carry in a soft bag. just about 2 years of similar use with my M8 and no problems, in fact due to the m8 size it probably gets banged around a little more and is still in near perfect condition.
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i will add ive only had it in the field 3 weeks now and ive already broken the batter/sd card door. dont ask me how, its a crappy weak piece of plastic that cracked somehow. and im not hard on my equipment. also, the screen is completely scratched from normal pocket carry in a soft bag. just about 2 years of similar use with my M8 and no problems, in fact due to the m8 size it probably gets banged around a little more and is still in near perfect condition.
That is bad. I also see the door is/looks very fragile. More then from my D-Lux 2 I had before! So one more reason to use the grip, which gives me (with big hands) a very good feeling holding the camera. Also 1st thing I did was a protection foil onto the screen to prevent from scratch. I think the newer plastics screens are sometimes very sensitive for just touching - so I only wipe them with silk or very fine cotton or special lens tissues, and I breathe before wiping the surface, so there is no dry wiping! I just cannot understand why it is not possible to use glass for the monitor screen surface or doing some antiscratch-coating to the surface. It is sure not that high price to do.
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These shots are excellent. Makes me re-think whether I go for this. My current upgrade strategy is to wait for Fuji X100 in march, at more than double the price and probably 50% more weight and size than this. I can't face chucking my LX1 away or retiring it to a drawer when it still does a perfectly okay job, so need a significant improvement before upgrading my digital portable compact.
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These shots are excellent. Makes me re-think whether I go for this. My current upgrade strategy is to wait for Fuji X100 in march, at more than double the price and probably 50% more weight and size than this. I can't face chucking my LX1 away or retiring it to a drawer when it still does a perfectly okay job, so need a significant improvement before upgrading my digital portable compact.
I have an LX1. It was ok in it's day but I have to tell you that the LX5 or even the D-lux 4/lx3 are so far ahead you will be in heaven.

Compared to the LX1 the LX5 is faster, worlds cleaner, with a better lens, better raw files and a much better LCD. You could buy the LX5 now and sell it for not much of a loss later. The LX3 is still selling for 80% of new.

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