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Old 01/17/07, 11:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Shutter life for the M8...?

Anyone know the warrantied shutter life for the M8...?
I remember my 1Ds MKII had a warranty for 250,000 actuation...

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Old 01/18/07, 01:30 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Never seen a figure, but they do keep count of the shutter actuations, I can see a listing in the firmware which includes it. There's some magic sequence of buttons to press to call up the in-camera diagnostics but I haven't found it yet.

I'm sure's there's a test rig going click, click, click as we speak, I wonder more about the life of the motor than the shutter itself.
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Old 01/18/07, 03:51 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I thot it says guaranteed up to 100,000,000 miles and then you need to overhaul the engine block and modify it to a V8 engine? In the meantime, please change your oil every 2.5K and use synthetic *only*.

Seriously, I did not see anything in print from Leica about warranty based on the number of actuations.

I also did not see who Leica outsourced the design/implementation of the shutter mechanism to. Anyone know about that one? Or did Leica do that themselves?
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Old 01/18/07, 10:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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It's a Copal shutter isn't it? It's a major reason why the price difference between the M8 and the M7 is as small as it is. That cloth shutter costs a fortune to make.
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Old 01/18/07, 10:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If nobody knows about the guaranteed shuttert life ... any ideas about the expected shutterlife? Would it be more like 100.000 or 250.000 actuations? Comparable to a consumer or pro dslr ?
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Old 01/18/07, 11:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Its said, that the shutter ist build by SEIKO
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Its said, that the shutter ist build by SEIKO
Where did you see that?Some reference would help. Thanks!
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It is said by a Leica engineer in an interview in Leica News, that "the design of the shutter"was one of the main R&D efforts in the development of the M8. Definitely Solms, with parts mostly made in Germany, I think.
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Old 01/18/07, 01:50 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Unless you are in the habit of taking hundreds of shots of even the most mundane subject, I wouldn't worry about the life of the shutter. Replacement shutter assemblies are not usually an expensive repair (Canon charge around £150-200) and if it goes after c.100,000 actuations I think you will have had your money's worth. In any case, it'll be covered by the M8 warranty for the first two years.

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There is a photo of the shutter on this review. It clearly is marked Copal. (Seiko makes Copal shutters I believe.)

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/lei...es/shutter.jpg
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Default Re: Shutter life for the M8...?

I'm not sure why the warranty for the shutter would be any different than the warranty for the rest of the camera. My understanding is that the 2-year warranty covers everything, including the shutter, regardless of the number of actuations.
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Old 01/22/07, 08:58 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Well, mine lasted a little over two weeks. I'm sure that's still within the warranty period/number of actuations (or rather )
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But Hans, that wasn't the shutter, was it?
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It was made by Copal but under Leica design and specs.
I see it when I visit the Leica plant here in Portugal.
It was the same to R8/9 and second to the Leica responsable to my visit it was designed for 200.000 expositions.
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But Hans, that wasn't the shutter, was it?
Well, it's the thing that cocks it and by looking at that picture it's attached to it. But it's not like one of the blades broke off or jammed or anything like that. Looks to me the whole thing has to come out, but i'm no Leica technician. When it gets fixed i will let you know what the problem was exactly.

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