Silver M8s in stock tomorrow at B&H?

[khanosu]

B&H’s site is showing the same weird behavior that has twice before resulted in correct predictions about M8’s being in stock the next day. The site is showing that behavior for silver M8s. Please see the following post for when this happened last time:

http://www.leica-camera-user.com/dig...-tomorrow.html


So there is a chance that silver M8s might be in stock at B&H tomorrow (Thursday, Jan. 11). If it does happen then please remember Allen’s post:

“Just a reminder, if you can, use the advertisers' banners at the top of this site as the portal through which you enter and the Forum receives a small benefit (which allows it to continue to operate!) from your purchase”

Furrukh

[leicanut2]

I must say as much as I like the Camera store where I go to buy my Leica stuff they do not carry much in stock and will not take a lay away. You have to pay in full before they place youe order. So I would rather call B and H and get it in 5 days then wait a month or more while they have my money before I get my camera.
Cheers Jan

[bnelson]

I got my M8 at B&H through this exact same tip. I checked this morning and they show out of stock.

Bill

[khanosu]

Hi Bill, yes they still have not shown in stock but they appear on the page when you hit “show me in stock” so they may still appear soon. Last two time when this happened they showed in stock soon after and after they were sold-out the site said “out of stock” and the web page stopped behaving in this weird way. Who knows, maybe this is just a defect in their site and we are reading too much into it but worth keeping an eye on the site for those interested in an silver M8.

Furrukh

[larry]

I'd just like to get my hands on a second battery!

Larry

[khanosu]

Originally Posted by larry

I'd just like to get my hands on a second battery!

Larry

Me too! That is the reason I hang around the B&H and other sites all the time. I have everything else I need for the foreseeable future but desperately need a couple of spare batteries

Furrukh

[steve_l]

My delaer just checked with his rep (New england) a few days ago and was told that the next batch of cameras is due to hit on Jan 12, so B&H is likely to get some of those...

[khanosu]

Originally Posted by steve_l

My delaer just checked with his rep (New england) a few days ago and was told that the next batch of cameras is due to hit on Jan 12, so B&H is likely to get some of those...

While hanging around B&H for batteries I have observed the following pattern for M8s:

• They get M8 stock every two weeks
  
• The stock shows up on a Thursday or Friday
  
• Before they get stock their website shows this funny behavior as if they are preparing their site fro M8s

So based on this pattern and Steve’s post it is probable that B&H will get stock of Silver M8 today (Thursday) or tomorrow

Furrukh

[bnelson]

That is exactly the way I got mine from B&H. On a Friday, check their site before 6:00 am Eastern time. Ordered, shipped next day and received on Saturday.

By 7:00 am Eastern time the website again showed out of stock. I think there was at least one other person on this site who did the same thing that day.

My recommendation... check early and order immediately.

By the way, Furrukh is correct in that this same next day stock issue with B&H showed up the night before I found mine.

Bill

[jrc]

I checked Calumet for the heck of it, and they show silver M8s available at 1-3 weeks, black at 12-14 weeks.

JC

[gesper]

I put myself on the wait list at Calumet last October, and to this day have never heard a word from them. Meantime, I bought a black M8 at B&H on November 11 after getting a tip from this forum.

[tjphoto]

I called B&H today and talked to a salesman. He said they were not selling the M8.
at this time. He wouldn't say when they were going to again. Very strange.
Tim

[scott kirkpatrick]

Just checked (out of curiousity, just need a battery), and at 1:30 am EST the M8 is still in stock but back-ordered, can't order.

Folks who want to have their hair-trigger ready for this opportunity should order something else first, now, so that all their address and credit information is stored away. Define a store ID. Then we'll see how few seconds it will take for B&H to go out of stock again. Flash crowds purchasing rare expensive cameras are a good example of how far we have come in the Internet Age.

scott

[butter71]

Originally Posted by scott kirkpatrick

Just checked (out of curiousity, just need a battery), and at 1:30 am EST the M8 is still in stock but back-ordered, can't order.

the silver M8 is showing "in stock" now.. but you can't order until 6:15pm EST saturday.

[marknorton]

Originally Posted by leicanut2

I must say as much as I like the Camera store where I go to buy my Leica stuff they do not carry much in stock and will not take a lay away. You have to pay in full before they place youe order. So I would rather call B and H and get it in 5 days then wait a month or more while they have my money before I get my camera.
Cheers Jan

One of the mysteries to me of buying things in the US is why anyone ever buys anything from a local store and pay sales tax when you can save sales tax by buying mail order. If the local store has minimal stocks and requires you to pay in advance for any item which is them ordered on an indeterminate lead time, it's just another reason to shop online.

[khanosu]

Mark, in Ohio you are required to pay sales tax on items bought online from other states. So if you do everything according to the book when you file your state tax returns then you don’t save on taxes; in the end you pay sales taxes as well as shipping on items bought online from other states. I suspect that many other states in the US have similar state tax laws.

Furrukh

[ho_co]

Mark--
The law in Texas is that if the company from which you are buying has a retail outlet in Texas, even though you are not buying from it, the company must charge the same tax you would have paid if you had bought in your city and state. For example: Since Apple has a number of Apple Stores in Texas, when I buy from Apple online, they charge Texas State and Houston City Tax (extra calculations for them) even though they ship from California.

But as you said, if I buy from a company that has no retail presence in Texas, they do not charge me Texas tax. The argument from Texas retailers in this case is, "Well, you don't pay tax but you do pay shipping." But that is only sometimes true, and even then can work out in my favor.

Needless to say, most states want all transactions that cross state lines to be subject to state tax, as do local retailers. On the other hand, the major 'trans-shippers' do not want to be liable for tax on goods going out of state. And I would guess that cities and states like New York like the influx of dollars from other states.

But there are reasons to buy locally. For example, a local businessman recognizes the problem of losing sales to out-of-state retailers and will tend to buy locally to support local businesses. A purchaser may see a hard-to-get item in stock locally and purchase on impulse. Similarly, on-line retailers may raise the price of a hard-to-get item because the market will bear it, while the local shop knows he will lose future business if he is perceived as gouging--so sometimes even with local taxes, it may be less expensive to buy locally.

And considering the strange behaviors of the M8, think how much better off a not-well-informed person might be to buy an M8 from a trustworthy and informative local merchant than from Amazon.

I'm sure you didn't want a treatise on retail capitalism in the US, but it's interesting how a savvy businessman can survive in a lot of unpredictable circumstances.

--HC