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Old 07/10/06, 03:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hallo,

nachdem es den gut beleumundeten Minolta 5400 II nicht mehr neu gibt, bleibt einem in dieser Preisklasse ja fast nur noch das Pendant von Nikon.
Oder hat jemand schon Erfahrung mit dem neuen Epson V 750 Pro? Klingt auf dem Papier ja eindrucksvoll und man hätte die Möglichkeit, auch noch MF-Negative/Dias (Stichwort Hasselblad für Hosenknöpfe) oder sogar Großformat zu scannen. Oder gibt es da immer noch erhebliche Qualitätsverluste ggü. "echten" Filscannern?

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You might get a better response to your post if you make it in the German section.

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Old 07/10/06, 03:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'm sorry. First try, and failed.
I'm looking for someone with experience with Epson V750.
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No need to apologise, but most people over here don't read German.

What is the issue with your scanner?
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I'm sorry. First try, and failed.
I'm looking for someone with experience with Epson V750.
Greetings, Gerd
I have one and am very pleased with it. At it's highest resolution it creates immense files, but the detail preserved is stunning.

It is easy to use and changes from scanning film and slides to documents or photographs very easily. It's ablility to derive correct color from a negative is impressive.

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I have one and am very pleased with it. At it's highest resolution it creates immense files, but the detail preserved is stunning.

It is easy to use and changes from scanning film and slides to documents or photographs very easily. It's ablility to derive correct color from a negative is impressive.

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Just a question, Bill : do you use the wet mount kit with it or not ?
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The photolab where I go uses one for medium and large format and they dumped their LS9000. They did say the 750 isn't that great for 35mm. They use a Flex-right or something like that. Oh, and they also said they don't use the Epson scanning program, but some other one, Scan-View (?).
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The photolab where I go uses one for medium and large format and they dumped their LS9000. They did say the 750 isn't that great for 35mm. They use a Flex-right or something like that. Oh, and they also said they don't use the Epson scanning program, but some other one, Scan-View (?).
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No photolab I know will ever tell you semi-pro scans could do a good job : it's theirs.
When looking for some tests done by non-biased knowledgeable people, the difference
between a Minolta Multi Pro (1800 $) and an Imacon 848 (10000$) might be not worth the price.
If they use a Flextight, it's Imacon.
And the software must be Vue-scan, I guess.
I saw some results with an Epson, which appear quite good to my eyes.
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Hier gibt es ein vollständig "test bericht" auf Englisch wegen die 750. Er sagte, es ist fast wie die Epson 700. Die beide sind fast so gut als ein Nikon 4000 mit 35mm film und sehr sehr gut mit MF film. Die Unterschied twischen die 750 und 700 ist Software und ein Bedeckung gegen Blendlicht.

I can only imagine that there are some really awful mistakes in my German above but it was fun to try and probably funnier to read

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Und hier ist die Bericht wegen die Epson 700.
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No photolab I know will ever tell you semi-pro scans could do a good job
Then I guess I'm lucky to know an honest photolab. Although they do claim that they know more abt scanning & therefore will get better results.
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The report I linked to above shows scans using the 700/750 and the same 100% crops from a Nikon 4000 for direct comparison. Admittedly one is going to get the best results with a drum scan operated by an experienced operator but the question asked how the 750 compared to a Minolta 5400/Nikon 4000 class of scanner.
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I have the V700--the more basic model. I am not entirely sure what the difference is. I have used it for simple scans and it is fine, but I've tried to do more serious work on it--scanning panoramic XPan tx's for example, and I was unimpressed to put it mildly. I haven't spent enough time to know whether I am doing something wrong, whether there is better software, and a better protocol to follow, but I hope so. Maybe the 750 is very superior. I'd be interesting in knowing if it is.
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I have the V700--the more basic model. I am not entirely sure what the difference is. I have used it for simple scans and it is fine, but I've tried to do more serious work on it--scanning panoramic XPan tx's for example, and I was unimpressed to put it mildly. I haven't spent enough time to know whether I am doing something wrong, whether there is better software, and a better protocol to follow, but I hope so. Maybe the 750 is very superior. I'd be interesting in knowing if it is.
Apparently, the unsharp mask is an essential factor in the post-process.
Results I saw with Peter Wolff are quite good, especially on monochrome.
My Minolta Multi Pro is really slow, any drumscan or virtual drum Imacon
is not an option (cost an eye) and scans from the lab are pricey on the long
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I have the V700--the more basic model. I am not entirely sure what the difference is. I have used it for simple scans and it is fine, but I've tried to do more serious work on it--scanning panoramic XPan tx's for example, and I was unimpressed to put it mildly. I haven't spent enough time to know whether I am doing something wrong, whether there is better software, and a better protocol to follow, but I hope so. Maybe the 750 is very superior. I'd be interesting in knowing if it is.
You might want to read through the review I linked to above. The chap shows many examples of 35mm scans from the 700 the 750 and a nikon 4k. He says that the only real difference between the two Epsons is the 750 has an anti-reflection optical coating and a full version of Silverfast AI. His experience with scan results does not mirror yours. He was enthusiastic with the output but it did take him some time to get there.
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No Johan, I've never used the wet mount kit; don't have one.

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I have it and it is excellent for Medium Format. I don't use it for 35mm though - my Nikon 5000 gives noticeably better results.
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You might want to read through the review I linked to above. The chap shows many examples of 35mm scans from the 700 the 750 and a nikon 4k. He says that the only real difference between the two Epsons is the 750 has an anti-reflection optical coating and a full version of Silverfast AI. His experience with scan results does not mirror yours. He was enthusiastic with the output but it did take him some time to get there.
Eric, thanks. I have looked but can't see the reference to the review--could you post it again? Sounds like a worthwhile read for someone like me.
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Hi,

I've just acquired a v750 for my MF film and am so far very impressed with the results. I've had a brief go with Vuescan, but find a few glitches I need to work on. At the moment SilverFast Ai is easier.

I'm using the SilverFast software for best control, although the Epson Scan software works for "quick and dirty."

Files of course can be huge but produce images at 48" at 240dpi (650Mb) or larger, if you have the time and storage space.

Snags: film flatness is crucial and difficult with the film holders supplied. I have ordered the fluid mount adapter from Epson UK (good prompt service) and also film holder and Anti Newton glass from "betterscanning".
Dust!!!!! I don't have a "clean room," but I wish I did! It can be very difficult to eliminate dust from the scanner and the film.
Yes, sharpening is essential, but then it is for most DSLRs and other scanners too. Less so of course for my M8.

I don't use the v750 for 35mm film and doubt that I would be happy with the results. I suspect that they wouldn't compare with results from my Minolta 5400.

I'm having great fun seeing what I can do with my Hassy negs at the moment.

Hope that helps.

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