€3.900 for a M8 Wow!

[timbedsted1234]

Hello,

You can apparantly no worder the M8 for just €3.900

It should be a runaway seller atr that price point

See here: http://www.fotorembrandt.be/content/4513/site/?id=3756

Cheers,
Tim

[andybarton]

What's that in real money?

£2700?

Someone has something wrong. that's only £700 more than an M7...

[starwatcher]

http://www.leica-camera-user.com/sho...=fotorembrandt

[timbedsted1234]

Andy,

Exactly if Leica can pull this off it will be a real seller and in some sense we shouldn't be surprised.

It will contain much less mechanical parts --> the expensive stuff

It would not price itself out of the all important American market

Cheers,
Tim

[wparsonsgisnet]

Question #1, is rembrandt a "real" Leica dealer and not a gray market guy?

Comment #1: since I have been beating the dead horse that the M8 has no expensive shutter and so on and should therefore be chaper, and since I have been getting beaten up for this position, will this dead horse run in the rembrandt stakes only, or is this a real price for a future?

[burkey]

According to our friends at Google. . .
€ 3900 = 4980.69 U.S. dollars
If this is correct it's pretty much what we expected in US dollars. 'Not sure about the conversion. Does this sound correct?

[etanguero]

Originally Posted by burkey

According to our friends at Google. . .
€ 3900 = 4980.69 U.S. dollars
If this is correct it's pretty much what we expected in US dollars. 'Not sure about the conversion. Does this sound correct?

for the gray market = yes.
for the real market = i fear "not".

eT

[marknorton]

Oh please, this is old news. How can any dealer offer to sell the camera at any price when it's not even launched yet?

I contacted them more than a month ago wanting to order a camera providing they would honour that price. Did they reply? Of course not.

Forget it. The price is more likely to be €4500 including typical European tax, $4995 + US tax, £3250 including UK VAT.

[timbedsted1234]

Burke,

€3.900 is with VAT included, so you need to subtract 16%

So €3276 and 4172.34 USD.

Bill,

I am with you all the way, the 3 things which cost money on the M8 is
1. the camera house
2. The sensor
3. The optical viewfinder


/T

[ade909]

This is good news.

A few people on the forum have said that they've already put their name down for an M8 with their local dealers. I'm assuming that they paid a deposit of some sort - in doing so did any of them get a definite price from their dealers? Does it compare to Rembrandt's? I guess if not, we might not hear from them (!!) but I'd be interested to know, especially from those in the UK.

Ade

[etanguero]

Originally Posted by timbedsted1234

Burke,

€3.900 is with VAT included, so you need to subtract 16%

So €3276 and 4172.34 USD.

Bill,

I am with you all the way, the 3 things which cost money on the M8 is
1. the camera house
2. The sensor
3. The optical viewfinder


/T

the hand colouring of the bodies letters ... that costs money.

eT


p.s.:
oder 'ne costum made M8:
http://www.summilux.net/m_system/m8-summilux.net.html

[stuny]

Uh, it still needs a shutter, doesn't it? The film transport is probably not very necessary, though.

[marknorton]

Originally Posted by ade909

This is good news.

A few people on the forum have said that they've already put their name down for an M8 with their local dealers. I'm assuming that they paid a deposit of some sort - in doing so did any of them get a definite price from their dealers? Does it compare to Rembrandt's? I guess if not, we might not hear from them (!!) but I'd be interested to know, especially from those in the UK.

Ade

The price from Rembrandt is not real, I tried to place an order, they never replied. Forget it!

[brucemcl]

Originally Posted by marknorton

The price from Rembrandt is not real...!

On the other hand, this digital M is definitely real.
http://minox-shop.payworxx.de/index....md=buy&id=205&
Real ___ (you may place your own description in the blank)

[TimF]

The price from Rembrandt is not real, I tried to place an order, they never replied. Forget it!

In English Mark, or what? Maybe they don't speak our lingo - not everyone does surprisingly enough. Even if you talk loud and slow!!

[etienne_werner]

Here in the Netherlands, a very well respected camera shop is taking orders. Their price expectations , without vat is €3000.
http://www.minderman.nl/fr_aanb.html

[flatfour]

It doesn't seem to matter what the price is, the first two year's production will be sold out and they will soon appear second-hand at $1000 dollars more. Oh well I shall just have to wait till the graph turns downwards.

[marknorton]

The key word there is "Prijsverwachting" - "Expected Price", but that is all down to how realistic their expectations are.

That figure of €3000 would put it at only €130 more than an M7 and about €1300 less than a DMR without a camera to attach it to.

You may be right, it would be good if the camera only cost £2500 incl VAT or $3800 + tax. I'd be surprised though.

On a separate note, I notice Leica Berlin are offering €100 off any uncoded lens which neatly covers the cost of putting one on if you want it.

[stunsworth]

Being cynical, the lower the 'expected' price, the more deposits they'll get to put in the bank and earn interest on ;-)

[wizard]

Just to clarify one issue, of course the M8 (or however it will be dubbed) needs a shutter. What I know is that the camera will get the R9-metal leaf shutter. What I do not know is whether you still have to manually cock the shutter (which is what I would expect) or whether there is an electric motor taking care of the cocking operation.

Andy