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For portrait, having the choice, what would you prefer :

a M Summilux 75 f1.4

or

an M APO Summicron ASPH 75 f2

 

I tend to photograph a lot in low light, but I'm so found of the R's

APO rendition that I'm just wondering…

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I have used the Summilux for some years now and like the images it produces. One of the nicer lenses that I own: OOF areas are beautiful, and the lens is sharp wide open, becoming ASPH-like sharp upon stopping down. Of course, the 75 Summicron is an Apo ASPH with a moving element for improved performance in the near range, but it is F2 and more expensive on the used market. The main objection that I hear to the Summilux is its size. This has never been an issue for me; I find that it handles wonderfully - mine is very smooth. Optically, you cannot go wrong with either lens. If you need F1.4, you need the Summilux. If size is an issue, if F2 is fast enough, or you want the benefits of the latest Apo ASPH technology then the Summicron should be considered. Shoot with both and then buy the one you like best. Better yet, buy them both.

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@jaapv : love the answer. I tend to photograph brides like coalminers and vice-versa.

remember what Godard said once : Hitchcock films women's faces as if he was filming their ass.

:cool:

@vol72 : buying both is a bit over the top for me. Size is not the matter : I'm used to it with the 90 et the Noctilux.

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Johan,

 

It comes down to 1 f-stop and money.

 

I do a lot of stage photography, so purchased the 1.4. Fortunately time heals all wounds and I have forgotten how much I paid for the lens.

 

If you don't need f1.4, the newer f2 is apparently a sharper lens.

 

I have been using the 1.4 for many years now and am pleased with it. It's a slow focuser. That is, it's stiffer then my wide lenses.

 

I am looking forward to using my 75 and my 90 f2.0 on the M8. I'm not sorry to have sold the 135 with the goggles, but I keep thinking about 180mm effective length on the M8 and wondering how it might have been.

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All along i wanted to have a 75mm for portraiture shoots.

 

and after the introduction of the 75 Summicron, i decided to get the Summilux.

 

1) No doubt the Summicron is very sharp n well corrected, but i m looking for the special bokeh that only older Leica lense can produce, hence only the Lux can do.

 

2) Since i have saved enough for the Cron, i must well save some more for the Lux.

 

3) The Cron is a new design lense, it will be in the production line for a long time. Whereas, the Lux was a 26 year old design lense, might be replaced any time by new design.

 

Try to borrow a 75 Lux, and shoot some pictures with it. You will began to fall in love with this wonderful lense. Remember to shoot wide open, be it f1.4 or f2.0, and note how yr subject will stand out.

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All along i wanted to have a 75mm for portraiture shoots.

 

and after the introduction of the 75 Summicron, i decided to get the Summilux.

 

1) No doubt the Summicron is very sharp n well corrected, but i m looking for the special bokeh that only older Leica lense can produce, hence only the Lux can do.

 

2) Since i have saved enough for the Cron, i must well save some more for the Lux.

 

3) The Cron is a new design lense, it will be in the production line for a long time. Whereas, the Lux was a 26 year old design lense, might be replaced any time by new design.

 

Try to borrow a 75 Lux, and shoot some pictures with it. You will began to fall in love with this wonderful lense. Remember to shoot wide open, be it f1.4 or f2.0, and note how yr subject will stand out.

 

If one wanna have the perfect bokeh one can choose both of them. I personally use the 75 cron. All discussions are pure therorie without pictures. The following pictures are taken with the 75 cron. The first one is taken at 2,0 the second one at 4,0.

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Locks and STAYS in place unlike the 90mmAA 'Cron which slides back at the slightest touch. -Dick
Thank you Dick. I have the 90mm AA and I know exactly what you mean, I use a 3rd party screw-in hood on the front of mine.

 

Wolfgang thank you for posting your pictures. She's a beautiful child and the lens does her proud! I do not see any traces of the harshness people have been talking about.

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