mole73 Posted November 25, 2008 Share #1 Posted November 25, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Which M-body will stay longer in production, the M7 (introduced in 2002) or the MP (introduced in 2003)? Which one will get the title of "THE LAST FILM LEICA"? Thanks for your answers. Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 25, 2008 Posted November 25, 2008 Hi mole73, Take a look here THE LAST FILM LEICA: M7 or MP?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
marknorton Posted November 25, 2008 Share #2 Posted November 25, 2008 Of course, when the M8 was launched, Leica was adamant that there would be another film Leica at some point. Seems unlikely now, IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zwicko Posted November 25, 2008 Share #3 Posted November 25, 2008 MP! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 25, 2008 Share #4 Posted November 25, 2008 You don't think, if Leica were EVER to cease production of the film M, that there wouldn't be at least one, if not several 'special' collectors editions? I think there's scope for more film M models yet however. So in answer to the OP's question, neither!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Heinrichsohn Posted November 25, 2008 Share #5 Posted November 25, 2008 Which M-body will stay longer in production, the M7 (introduced in 2002) or the MP (introduced in 2003)? Which one will get the title of "THE LAST FILM LEICA"? Thanks for your answers. Robert In my opinion, the MP. I do not see what Leica can add or change without a total re-think. The mechanical Leica is much more resistant to change. Please refer to the M3. Teddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 25, 2008 Share #6 Posted November 25, 2008 I do not see what Leica can add or change without a total re-think. A proper rewind mechanism? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DuquesneG Posted November 25, 2008 Share #7 Posted November 25, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Which M-body will stay longer in production, the M7 (introduced in 2002) or the MP (introduced in 2003)? What makes you certain either of them is still in production? I suppose if someone wants one ala carte, that would technically be "in production" but otherwise I believe Leica hasn't and won't do another regular production run until whatever is in inventory is gone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mole73 Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share #8 Posted November 25, 2008 What makes you certain either of them is still in production? I suppose if someone wants one ala carte, that would technically be "in production" but otherwise I believe Leica hasn't and won't do another regular production run until whatever is in inventory is gone. I don´t know it for sure, but in the pricelist for 2009 they are still listest (like the R9). So perhaps they are no longer manufactured, but you can still buy them without ála carte. I can´t see any further developments in film M´s. The M7 is the most advanced of them all and her sister, the MP is the latest and greatest (my opinion) of the mechanical era. Perhaps there will be more special editions but I asked for the normal models. Thanks for your responses Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 25, 2008 Share #9 Posted November 25, 2008 I am pretty sure that both M7s and MPs are still being made R9 production ceased a couple of years ago Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posto 6 Posted November 25, 2008 Share #10 Posted November 25, 2008 Before they think of phasing out film cameras, Leica should definitely produce an update of their exceptional M6J. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted November 25, 2008 Share #11 Posted November 25, 2008 A proper rewind mechanism? Never had any problems using the m4/m7 style crank. Blaming your tools, Steve? (Wink!) My Leica rep says M7s outsell MPs 3:1, but I've alway felt the customer with the techie itch will migrate to digital, while the film purist would stick with the MP mechanical. Thus MP IMHO. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 25, 2008 Share #12 Posted November 25, 2008 Never had any problems using the m4/m7 style crank. Blaming your tools, Steve? (Wink?) Nope, that's the type I prefer. I was referring to the original poster's preference for the MP. Context is everything, and I didn't have enough of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 26, 2008 Share #13 Posted November 26, 2008 What makes you certain either of them is still in production? I suppose if someone wants one ala carte, that would technically be "in production" but otherwise I believe Leica hasn't and won't do another regular production run until whatever is in inventory is gone. They are still available to buy new, still listed by Leica as current models. That counts as 'in production' I think.........I don't know if you visted Solms tomorrow that you would actually see them running off a production line but they are still making them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 26, 2008 Share #14 Posted November 26, 2008 I can´t see any further developments in film M´s. The M7 is the most advanced of them all and her sister, the MP is the latest and greatest (my opinion) of the mechanical era. Perhaps there will be more special editions but I asked for the normal models. Thanks for your responses Robert Sorry to be pedantic but your question was quite straightforward, would the MP or M7 be the last model to be made. If Leica produce an M 'whatever' then its a different camera. What could they do? Maybe changes to the metering, different shutter in the M7, metal shutter in the MP, built in motordrive, lower cost CL type film M, who knows. Not saying its likely but I don't think we've seen the last film M's yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mole73 Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share #15 Posted November 26, 2008 Thank you all! James, I think they are the last of the line. The market has no more interest in analogue that a development for a new film-M makes any sense. But I hope they will build and sell these two for a long time. And if they leave only one model on the line I hope it will be the MP... Robert Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted November 26, 2008 Share #16 Posted November 26, 2008 The MP is a la carte. Presumably the M7 is too? Why is it so french menu? Isnt there a suitably teutonic phrase, or just plain english? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted November 26, 2008 Share #17 Posted November 26, 2008 The MP is a la carte. ...Isnt there a suitably teutonic phrase, or just plain english? Custom made? Can't think of a suitable teutonic phrase, even though I am German. Maybe "Sonderwunsch"-MP . Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongrelnomad Posted November 26, 2008 Share #18 Posted November 26, 2008 My Leica rep says M7s outsell MPs 3:1 Last time I was in Leica Ginza, the rep there told me that the proportion M7:MP was ~ 40:60. Both heavily outnumbered by M8 though... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted November 26, 2008 Share #19 Posted November 26, 2008 Nope, that's the type I prefer. I was referring to the original poster's preference for the MP. Context is everything, and I didn't have enough of it. Well with the add-on crank the MP/M3/M2 is just as fast as the M4/6/7. I don't think Leica will produce any newer model of the film M. About the only thing that comes to mind is if they make a digital viewfinder for the M digital they may put that into a film M. Big problem with that is there is just not enough room inside the camera. Which means we're looking at another M5 or a total redesign of the camera and lenses. I really can't see why anyone is buying new M7's or MP's at over $4000. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DuquesneG Posted November 26, 2008 Share #20 Posted November 26, 2008 They are still available to buy new, still listed by Leica as current models. That counts as 'in production' I think.........I don't know if you visted Solms tomorrow that you would actually see them running off a production line but they are still making them. Right now the newspaper is full of ads for 2008 cars "available to buy new" but I don't know anyone foolish enough to assert that they are "in production". "In production" means that if I visited Solms tomorrow I would actually see them running off a production line. Camera manufacturers frequently keep items in their catalogue until inventories reach a low point. A case in point was the Nikon F3HP that remained in Nikon's catalog as a current item years (some reports said as much as ten) after the last production run was completed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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