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Old 07/25/08, 06:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Voigtlander CV 35 1.2 Price increase £250 in 2 weeks!!!

Well I was all for buying a Voigtlander VM 35 1.2 Nockton after Id read good reviews and seen the price at £495 inc VAT at Robert Whites(UK) in Amateur Photographer 19th July.

Imagine my surprise when ringing them to find the price is now £746. I know prices are going up on some things. Just wished Id bought it 2 weeks ago.

Anybody else seeing substantial price rises on items, or know where I might get this lens cheaper.

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Old 07/25/08, 07:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default AW: Voigtlander CV 35 1.2 Price increase £250 in 2 weeks!!!

679 GBP at ffordes,
572 GBP (equiv.) at Foto Mundus in Germany (http://www.foto-mundus.de/shop/voigt...n-p-6469.html),
520 GBP (equiv.) at cameraquest.com in the US (Voigtlander 35/1.2)

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Well I was all for buying a Voigtlander VM 35 1.2 Nockton after Id read good reviews and seen the price at £495 inc VAT at Robert Whites(UK) in Amateur Photographer 19th July.

Imagine my surprise when ringing them to find the price is now £746. I know prices are going up on some things. Just wished Id bought it 2 weeks ago.

Anybody else seeing substantial price rises on items, or know where I might get this lens cheaper.
Ffordes https://secure.ffordes.com/index.htm has it for £679
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Old 07/25/08, 07:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Voigtlander CV 35 1.2 Price increase £250 in 2 weeks!!!

Thanks for the info. Because of warrenty issues and shipping not sure I would buy from abroad.

Now Im wondering if I would be better off getting a used leica 35mm M 1.4 non asph. It would not be far off the same price. Anybody any thoughts on that?
One of the issues I have is flare, currently i have a voigtlander 35 1.7 which has proved a good lens apart from the flare when shooting into or close to the light.
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Thanks for the info. Because of warrenty issues and shipping not sure I would buy from abroad.

Now Im wondering if I would be better off getting a used leica 35mm M 1.4 non asph. It would not be far off the same price. Anybody any thoughts on that?
One of the issues I have is flare, currently i have a voigtlander 35 1.7 which has proved a good lens apart from the flare when shooting into or close to the light.
The CV 35/1.2 is reputed to be very resistant to flare.
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Old 07/25/08, 08:19 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Voigtlaender - Nokton 35 mm

list that lens for 999 Euros and

https://www.leicashop.com/catalog/in...t_order&page=2

800 Euros, VAT excluded and 900 Euros:

https://www.leicashop.com/vintage/vo...me-p-2721.html

I read lens is limited to 300 pieces worldwide, so no wonder such prices, double compared to 35mm f1,4 Nokton...
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They are at $999.95US at B&H, up from $879US.

All due to the U.S. dollar being worth marginally more than Charmin these days (thanks to the machinations of the billionaires who run the world and the political sock puppets that they own ). GRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!

I had one & sold it about a year ago - DUMB, DUMB, DUMB move!!!

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Old 07/25/08, 08:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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679 GBP at ffordes,
572 GBP (equiv.) at Foto Mundus in Germany (http://www.foto-mundus.de/shop/voigt...n-p-6469.html),
520 GBP (equiv.) at cameraquest.com in the US (Voigtlander 35/1.2)

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Foto-mundus link gives 404 message, try this: Foto Digital Mundus
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Glad I got mine (mint 2nd hand) from Aperture a few weeks ago!
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Now Im wondering if I would be better off getting a used leica 35mm M 1.4 non asph. It would not be far off the same price. Anybody any thoughts on that?
I have one - just back from a service with Malcolm Taylor.

A bit soft wide open and highlights literally have a halo, stopped down a little it's a good performer.

It's far smaller than the Voigtlander. I'll have it with me on the group get together at Morecambe this Sunday - I realise that's a bit of a trek just to look at a lens.
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Default Re: Voigtlander CV 35 1.2 Price increase £250 in 2 weeks!!!

Whenever I see one of these "ohmigod the price has gone up on [insert as applicable]" threads I always wonder how long it was available at the lower price. In this case the lens was introduced to the market five years ago. How much has the price moved in the past lustrum? If it was held for a significant proportion of that time then it is hardly unreasonable.

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Bill, I think the Robert White price recently dipped and has now risen.

Back to the 35mm pre-ASPH Summilux. This lens gets a bad rap. I used to own one and sold it, now I've bought another. Here's full frame and 100% magnification from my latest sample at f1.4. Not a great shot, but it may give an indication of the 'look' of the lens. Neither image has had any sharpening.

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Here's an example of the glow that you can get from a pre-ASPH 35 Summilux

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And another (both wide open, btw)

I had one for a few months, but the glow was a bit too much for my taste, so I "swapped" it for a Summicron. If I am feeling flush one day n the future I might think about buying one back

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Default Re: Voigtlander CV 35 1.2 Price increase £250 in 2 weeks!!!

Thankyou all for your thoughts and the info on the Leica 35mm m1.4. Very interested to hear about the "glow". Im relatively new to the Leica world and need to understand the characteristics of the differant lenses. Maybe even at the higher price the CV could still be a good buy for me, as the glow is not really to my taste at this time.

Unfortunatly this weekend Morcambe would be out, not too far from Huddersfield though.

I agree prices do have to go up on occasion, the shock was having it happen to me just when id got the cash.
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shame about Morecambe, Paul, as these gatherings usually mean that there are all sorts of lenses to play with

There will be a "next" time
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Well I was all for buying a Voigtlander VM 35 1.2 Nockton after Id read good reviews and seen the price at £495 inc VAT at Robert Whites(UK) in Amateur Photographer 19th July.

Imagine my surprise when ringing them to find the price is now £746. I know prices are going up on some things. Just wished Id bought it 2 weeks ago.

Anybody else seeing substantial price rises on items, or know where I might get this lens cheaper.
Peter Walnes used photographic equipment used leica used cameras used nikon - Leica M mount (VM) who is also a CV agent, has a brand new black one for sale at £495 and a silver for £517
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One thing to bear in mind if you think you may use the Voigtlander f1.2 lens with an M8 at some point, is that the early ones wouldn't mount on that camera because of a shroud at the back of the lens. I believe that later ones are ok - and the earlier ones can be modified.
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John.

Thanks for the link, I will phone them monday, along with everyone else whos seen this thread

Steve,
Yep I saw the referance to the M8, so will bear that in mind if I ever go down that route. Although it will be the Nikon D700 first after all the initial bugs are ironed out
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Monday update:

Why do people advertise on the web that they have something when they dont!

"No problem i havnt one in stock but will get one from Robert Whites in 2 days".. "Ohh do you have the silver one your advertising then".. "no we dont.."

Needless to say when they checked with Rober Whites they removed the silver one from thier site and put the price up from £495 to £746 for the other.. which they still dont hold in stock.

I suppose I would do the same if I thought I could get one quickly.. just have to make sure I keep checking the price.
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