R vs M

[egorkum]

Would I loose some quality or picture magic if prefer R-system? Please Help to select ! Glad any comments !

[andybarton]

No.

R lenses haven't been updated for some time (most of them), but they are still outstanding. Some are almost identical in design to the M equivalents, while some are different. Obviously, in longer lengths, there is no competition anyway. They are also very much more affordable than their M counterparts.

Welcome to the forum!

[jaapv]

No- you'll only loose a lot of money because in the end you'll find you want both systems....

[earleygallery]

Its actually a great time to buy into the R system. Prices have never been cheaper (for s/h gear).

I was at a camera fair yesterday and found several nice R bodies on sale for £100-£200, as well as some very tempting R lenses.

[jimmy pro]

Originally Posted by egorkum

Would I loose some quality or picture magic if prefer R-system? Please Help to select ! Glad any comments !

You might loose some weight carrying it around. Which could be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your situation

[egorkum]

Thanks Gentlemen ! Buying R set !

[topoxforddoc]

So what have you decided to buy? I agree with James, now is a great time to buy R kit. Prices are falling with uncertainty over the 'R10' issue. Some of the R glass is sublime.

Charlie

[egorkum]

What about R10? May be I need have some patience?

[andybarton]

Patience and very deep pockets...

[egorkum]

Have not taken the hint.
Egor

[rsh]

Jaap is correct in that you will indeed want both R and M. And yes, now is the time to buy R lenses because the prices are way down, but I truly believe the lenses you buy will be compatible with the Digital R and the prices will rebound once that camera is announced.

I have no info on that, it is a gut feeling.

[egorkum]

Thanks again Sirs!
May be M to R adapter, M lenses, R and M body is good choice for me?
I'm at the cross-roads again.
Egor

[andybarton]

Don't compromise with the adaptor would be my advice.

Buy the R first.

[egorkum]

OK. Thanks.
My dealer doesnt know about price falling down.
R and M lenses cost equally.
I prefer new gear.
egor

[egorkum]

So mirror is the only decisive advantage of R
egor

[earleygallery]

Originally Posted by egorkum

OK. Thanks.
My dealer doesnt know about price falling down.
R and M lenses cost equally.
I prefer new gear.
egor

Your dealer knows you want to buy

Even new R lenses are discounted by most dealers - they are trying to clear their stocks. It would seem likely that any new Leica SLR will have autofocus (just my opinion).

I really wouldn't buy new R glass however. There is hardly anything to go wrong with a Mint s/h lens so why pay more? I would go for a new body if budget allows - again you should find new R9's at discounted prices.

You can't use M lenses on an R (OK some viso flex tele lenses as an exception).

[egorkum]

The New R will be announced in five minutes i've spent my money.
Thanks people!
Egor

[bill]

Originally Posted by egorkum

So mirror is the only decisive advantage of R
egor

No...

The lack of a mirror is one of the decisive advantages of the M...

Regards,

Bill

[egorkum]

I've got used to pre-release the mirror on my hasselblad
Egor

[masjah]

On the subject of new versus used R glass, you might like to consider the possibility of "Ex Demo" R lenses. These can be very competitiive, and have the advantage of a full Passport warranty (at least, they do in the UK). I've gone down this route with the last three R lenses which I've bought, a 21-35, a 28-90, and a 100 macro Elmarit, all as new, and all at virtually half list price with full warranty.