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gwelland · 04/29/08, 04:13 AM

Is there a preferred technique for getting film canister out of a M7 with the mechanical DX sensor inside?

My camera keeps the film snug inside and it takes some effort to get it out sometimes. I've tried the tap (don't really like shocking the camera/viewfinder), the shake, and now I've given up and resorted to carrying some tweezers with me and grab the core of the canister.

Any tips? Anyone had the optical sensor upgrade? How much?

Learner · 04/29/08, 04:23 AM

Ditto on the tweezers.

enboe · 04/29/08, 04:28 AM

My M7 was in the first 1000 cameras, and I used it extensively until the DX reader became unreliable and there was measurable dust in the viewfinder. I sent it in long after the warranty expired, and 14 weeks later, it was returned serviced for free, including the optical DX upgrade.

Your milage may differ.

Eric

christer · 04/29/08, 10:21 AM

You can try not to rewind the film completely back into the canister and use the loose end to push out the canister

bill · 04/29/08, 07:33 PM

Just give it a damn good slap. That'll teach it.

I've done that from new - over five years ago.

Regards,

Bill

andybarton · 04/29/08, 08:09 PM

I use that boy-scout thing from my Swiss Army Knife.

bill · 04/29/08, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by andybarton

I use that boy-scout thing from my Swiss Army Knife.

I always thought that was for cutting Girl Guides' knicker elastic...

But then I did get thrown out for demanding money with menaces during Bob a Job week...

Regards,

Bill

fotografr · 04/29/08, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bill

I always thought that was for cutting Girl Guides' knicker elastic...

But then I did get thrown out for demanding money with menaces during Bob a Job week...

Regards,

Bill

And here we thought you were a "Gentleman."

fotografr · 04/29/08, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andybarton

I use that boy-scout thing from my Swiss Army Knife.

Would that be the cork screw?

bill · 04/29/08, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fotografr

And here we thought you were a "Gentleman."

...with a mis-spent youth

Regards,

Bill

spylaw4 · 04/29/08, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bill

...with a mis-spent youth

Regards,

Bill

Hmmm! - only the youth bit?

fotografr · 04/29/08, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by spylaw4

Hmmm! - only the youth bit?

I think what he really meant was "miss-spent."

Falstaff · 04/30/08, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by andybarton

I use that boy-scout thing from my Swiss Army Knife.

I always take it to my dealer who will take the film out and replace it with a new one.

Falstaff

andybarton · 04/30/08, 09:17 AM

To do it really properly, you should send it back to Solms, of course. (Never New Jersey...)

andybarton · 04/30/08, 09:20 AM

To be serious, I tap the top of my camera with the heal of my palm just enough to get the top of the spool out, then pull.

My M7 is from 2002, and the canister is gripped quite tightly. No idea whether it has the optical DX reader or not. I always set my ISO manually, anyway.

christer · 04/30/08, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by christer

You can try not to rewind the film completely back into the canister and use the loose end to push out the canister

My remark was well meant, but I now realize it is completely out of place. I now also know what Swiss Army Knifes are good for - at least in the UK.

bill · 04/30/08, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by fotografr

I think what he really meant was "miss-spent."

I'm sayin' nuttin'...

Regards,

Bill

bill · 04/30/08, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by christer

My remark was well meant, but I now realize it is completely out of place. I now also know what Swiss Army Knifes are good for - at least in the UK.

When my son was little he used to refer to my "Swish Army Knife". I think they were only issued to officers...

Regards,

Bill

gwelland · 04/30/08, 05:59 PM

Thanks folks - I worry that I'm fat fingered at best and too many years of serious contact sports render me unable to accurately gauge the difference between a well intentioned 'tap' and a serious death blow to whatever I touch. I'm one of those folks you only give heavy metal objects to when you want something demolished.

[Scene is dark at night in a seedy corner of town]:
Law: "Is that a flick knife you've got there?"
Moi: "No, officer, just my handy film removal tool for my M7."

I'll work on my "technique" a bit further I think. I've only had the camera for a couple of weeks with probably less than ten films through it so I'm still a newbie at the art of M7 abuse. The DX sensor likes a death grip on Ilford XP2 which is quite ironic because I override the DX sensor and dial it in at ISO 320 anyways.

usefeet · 04/30/08, 09:21 PM

If I used not tap out, they I use out with out cannister with a key.

04/29/08, 04:13 AM	#1 (permalink)
gwelland Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 03/01/04 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 515	Film Removal - M7 Is there a preferred technique for getting film canister out of a M7 with the mechanical DX sensor inside? My camera keeps the film snug inside and it takes some effort to get it out sometimes. I've tried the tap (don't really like shocking the camera/viewfinder), the shake, and now I've given up and resorted to carrying some tweezers with me and grab the core of the canister. Any tips? Anyone had the optical sensor upgrade? How much? __________________ Graham

04/29/08, 04:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
Learner Benutzer Join Date: 05/10/07 Posts: 69	Re: Film Removal - M7 Ditto on the tweezers.

04/29/08, 04:28 AM	#3 (permalink)
enboe Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 10/04/02 Posts: 142	Grab/Tap until it needed other service, then free upgrade My M7 was in the first 1000 cameras, and I used it extensively until the DX reader became unreliable and there was measurable dust in the viewfinder. I sent it in long after the warranty expired, and 14 weeks later, it was returned serviced for free, including the optical DX upgrade. Your milage may differ. Eric

04/29/08, 10:21 AM	#4 (permalink)
christer Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 10/22/02 Location: Regnéville-sur-mer + Hamburg Posts: 438	AW: Film Removal - M7 You can try not to rewind the film completely back into the canister and use the loose end to push out the canister

04/29/08, 07:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
bill Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 01/27/03 Location: Frimley Posts: 2,237	Re: Film Removal - M7 Just give it a damn good slap. That'll teach it. I've done that from new - over five years ago. Regards, Bill __________________ Bill Palmer (Gentleman Amateur and Leica Lout) ________________________________ "God is not on the side of the big battalions, but on the side of those who shoot best." 12 of my best Some of my images

04/29/08, 08:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
andybarton Moderator Join Date: 06/21/06 Location: Airstrip 1 - 53:17:00N 03:04:00W Posts: 7,656	Re: Film Removal - M7 I use that boy-scout thing from my Swiss Army Knife. __________________ Cheers, Andy ___________________________ 2008 Spring Collection now released

04/30/08, 09:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
andybarton Moderator Join Date: 06/21/06 Location: Airstrip 1 - 53:17:00N 03:04:00W Posts: 7,656	Re: Film Removal - M7 To do it really properly, you should send it back to Solms, of course. (Never New Jersey...) __________________ Cheers, Andy ___________________________ 2008 Spring Collection now released

04/30/08, 09:20 AM	#15 (permalink)
andybarton Moderator Join Date: 06/21/06 Location: Airstrip 1 - 53:17:00N 03:04:00W Posts: 7,656	Re: Film Removal - M7 To be serious, I tap the top of my camera with the heal of my palm just enough to get the top of the spool out, then pull. My M7 is from 2002, and the canister is gripped quite tightly. No idea whether it has the optical DX reader or not. I always set my ISO manually, anyway. __________________ Cheers, Andy ___________________________ 2008 Spring Collection now released

04/30/08, 05:59 PM	#19 (permalink)
gwelland Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 03/01/04 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 515	Re: AW: Film Removal - M7 Thanks folks - I worry that I'm fat fingered at best and too many years of serious contact sports render me unable to accurately gauge the difference between a well intentioned 'tap' and a serious death blow to whatever I touch. I'm one of those folks you only give heavy metal objects to when you want something demolished. [Scene is dark at night in a seedy corner of town]: Law: "Is that a flick knife you've got there?" Moi: "No, officer, just my handy film removal tool for my M7." I'll work on my "technique" a bit further I think. I've only had the camera for a couple of weeks with probably less than ten films through it so I'm still a newbie at the art of M7 abuse. The DX sensor likes a death grip on Ilford XP2 which is quite ironic because I override the DX sensor and dial it in at ISO 320 anyways. __________________ Graham

04/30/08, 09:21 PM	#20 (permalink)
usefeet Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 06/02/07 Location: Pasadena, Australia Posts: 132	Re: Film Removal - M7 If I used not tap out, they I use out with out cannister with a key.