rosuna Posted October 21, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 21, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) The next generation is coming: Epson starts mass production of high-end EVF panels: Digital Photography Review EVF will evolve very fast... I expect to see accessory EVF on Leica cameras soon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 21, 2009 Posted October 21, 2009 Hi rosuna, Take a look here Epson starts mass production of high-end EVF panels. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
rosuna Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #2 Posted October 31, 2009 The Olympus E-P2 will bring a high resolution EVF... Olympus E-P2 I would like to see this on a M10 camera... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
picker77 Posted November 1, 2009 Share #3 Posted November 1, 2009 This appears to me to be game-changing technology, as in maybe the death knell for traditional rangefinder camera design. With no need (finally!) for fiddly mechanical external focus system calibration, mirrors, and pentaprisms, why build a new camera with a non-TTL focusing system? Unless I misunderstand, an M10 (for example) incorporating this technology could be an M9 with no rangefinder and a sharp 800x600 EVF image in the VF. No change in camera size (although it could easily be smaller and lighter), and it could easily incorporate fast autofocus, which is already settled technology in the DSLR world. I think this is exciting news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 1, 2009 Share #4 Posted November 1, 2009 An EVIL is not a rangefinder. Not the same beasts at all. Could be great with an X1 & interchangeable lenses though. Would make a digital CL w/o rangefinder sort of but the RF of the CL was not accurate enough for fast lenses anyway so why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted November 1, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted November 1, 2009 I am not thinking on a replacement for the viewfinder/rangefinder, but on an accesory, just like external viewfinders are now... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 1, 2009 Share #6 Posted November 1, 2009 I am not thinking on a replacement for the viewfinder/rangefinder, but on an accesory... I think LCT is responding to the message immediately prior to his which suggests replacing the rangefinder with a video screen. The rest of that posts seems to be relishing the prospect of turning an M into an SLR. Sorry, that's not for me I'm afraid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 1, 2009 Share #7 Posted November 1, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am not thinking on a replacement for the viewfinder/rangefinder, but on an accesory, just like external viewfinders are now... Would be great at first glance but would imply live view no? So a different sensor, more heath, more battery drain, and so on, correct me if i'm wrong. Given the small size of the M9 body i would vastly prefer 4 fps and a larger raw buffer personally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted November 2, 2009 Share #8 Posted November 2, 2009 Dunno ... EVFs are very good and only set to get better. With all the crap that goes into and goes wrong with a rangefinder mechanism why wouldnt you replace it with something better at a fraction of the cost? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 2, 2009 Share #9 Posted November 2, 2009 ...why wouldnt you replace it with something better at a fraction of the cost? Because it isn't better? With an EVF will the entire view be in focus as it is with a rangefinder? Will I be able to see around the framelines. An EVF is s fundamentally different way of seeing the world compared to a rangefinder and is almost identical to an SLR - something many of us have rejected when selecting the M system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted November 2, 2009 Share #10 Posted November 2, 2009 Sure its better by any standard you chose to measure. More robust, cheaper, more accurate, no misclose between frameline subject v backround, enhanced in low light, project whatever you want on the display for a fabulous user interface. Early days and still a winner on all counts. I enjoy rangefinder as much as anyone but that doesnt mean I couldnt or would refuse to adapt to a better solution and if it made for a more reliable and flexible user camera. In the mean time I got me MP. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 2, 2009 Share #11 Posted November 2, 2009 (edited) But the EVF turns the camera into a 'virtual' SLR and that's something I'm not interested in at all. Only my opinion, but I suspect I'm not the only one. I'm sure SLR users used to use similar arguments about rangefinders - more accurate viewfinder, greater range of usable focal lengths, see what the film will see etc., but that misses the fundamental reason why people chose, and still choose, a rangefinder - the viewfinder. Edited November 2, 2009 by stunsworth Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted November 2, 2009 Share #12 Posted November 2, 2009 But the EVF turns the camera into a 'virtual' SLR. Which camera? Are you worried that slipping an EVF on to M it would turn it into an EOS experience? Thats a bit of phobia creeping in I think Steve. EVFs are only in the cheaper cameras at the moment, sooner or later they might well wind up in cameras you prefer the feel of. I think your M is safe for a while. Bit of a shame though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted November 2, 2009 Share #13 Posted November 2, 2009 I'm hopeful that an EVf will bring a simple solution to the use of R glass with a fine sensor. Small form factor, accurate focus confirmation for those that need it & a totally silent camera body. Very cool. Probably will include an excellent HD video solution with sound as well. The image maker will be able to "pull" the focus in real time with very strong details evident in the finder to decern both the foreground & oof areas. Sounds outstanding! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted November 2, 2009 Would be great at first glance but would imply live view no? So a different sensor, more heath, more battery drain, and so on, correct me if i'm wrong. Given the small size of the M9 body i would vastly prefer 4 fps and a larger raw buffer personally. Yes, a new CMOS or interline CCD sensor. No more battery drain, necessarily. It depends on many variables. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted November 4, 2009 The rumor seems to point to a real thing. Olympus E-P2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted November 5, 2009 Share #16 Posted November 5, 2009 The rumor seems to point to a real thing. Olympus E-P2 Yes. And, coming back to the theme of the thread, it doesn't seem Olympus has reinvented EVFs. I expect it to be very similar to the one for the GF1 which according to several tests doesn't even match the one on the G1. In the end - like with the Sigma DP1/DP2, the GF1, and the X1 - you get a more or less small camera which suddenly isn't so small anymore once you add a viewfinder. You can only choose between the electronic and the optical variant. Too sad... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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