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elansprint72 · 11/15/06, 10:12 PM

One of the problems I seem to be facing with digital is the range of contrast; in the "good" old darkroom days I would have burned in the thin bits with a shot like this; what should I do with PS? Bear in mind that I only have PSE 2, should I upgrade the software... I'm sort of waiting for Lightroom (the beta version will not run on ths ancient computer), or.... should I shoot in B&W on my D2, something which I have never done. Help!

jackart · 11/15/06, 10:17 PM

something like that?
I osed shadows/highlight tool, available in PSE5. Still, subject is quite difficult. Very intense sky and dark shadows.

-jaak

andybarton · 11/16/06, 06:36 AM

Shoot RAW and use something more modern that PSE2, which in software terms is ancient.

You need to be using at least the Curves function, which is not available in PSE2.

elansprint72 · 11/16/06, 08:39 AM

Jaak, Andy,
Thanks, that has gone a lot of the way towards what I was aiming for but as you say, a difficult situation, of course it would have been a struggle had I been using something like Pan F.
So, two votes for PSE5, looks like I'll have to get my wallet out

jmr · 11/16/06, 01:35 PM

Pete,

obviously, with digital you need to protect the highlights as you take the shot, and trust that if there's not too much tonal range you'll be able to get at the detail in the shadows in post processing.

What I'd do is create a mask for the left side and a complementary one for the right, and use levels, altering especially the mid-point, to get an overall effect like you saw at the time.

biglouis · 11/16/06, 01:35 PM

Pete

Don't know if you need to get the wallet out quite yet. In RAW you should be able to achieve some good results use Lightroom Beta which I use almost exclusively shooting in RAW with my D-LUX 2.

LouisB

spylaw4 · 11/17/06, 08:29 AM

I agree with Louis - but occasionally I feel the need for perspective correction which Lightroom doesn't have (yet?).

lykoudos · 11/17/06, 08:57 AM

Hello Jaak,

Impressing admission in completed perspective and composition. I believe, you have the perfect searchsee from birth.

Wolfgang (PM grey hammertone, 2,8/28; 1,4/50; 2/90)

11/16/06, 06:36 AM	#3 (permalink)
andybarton Moderator Join Date: 06/21/06 Location: Airstrip 1 - 53:17:00N 03:04:00W Posts: 7,671	Re: St Paul's... digital help wanted. Shoot RAW and use something more modern that PSE2, which in software terms is ancient. You need to be using at least the Curves function, which is not available in PSE2. __________________ Cheers, Andy ___________________________ 2008 Spring Collection now released

11/16/06, 08:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
elansprint72 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 08/27/05 Location: Utterly, Up North. Posts: 5,872	Re: St Paul's... digital help wanted. Jaak, Andy, Thanks, that has gone a lot of the way towards what I was aiming for but as you say, a difficult situation, of course it would have been a struggle had I been using something like Pan F. So, two votes for PSE5, looks like I'll have to get my wallet out __________________ Cheers, Pete. http://www.petetaylor.org New gallery added, September 08- "Car parts" Quieta movere magna merces videbatur, O imitatores, servum pecus,

11/16/06, 01:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
jmr Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 11/06/04 Location: Tintwistle Posts: 4,793	Re: St Paul's... digital help wanted. Pete, obviously, with digital you need to protect the highlights as you take the shot, and trust that if there's not too much tonal range you'll be able to get at the detail in the shadows in post processing. What I'd do is create a mask for the left side and a complementary one for the right, and use levels, altering especially the mid-point, to get an overall effect like you saw at the time. __________________ John Reynolds johnreynoldsphotography.com

11/16/06, 01:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
biglouis Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 05/20/06 Location: London Posts: 2,535	Re: St Paul's... digital help wanted. Pete Don't know if you need to get the wallet out quite yet. In RAW you should be able to achieve some good results use Lightroom Beta which I use almost exclusively shooting in RAW with my D-LUX 2. LouisB __________________ "I was a half-wit but I found the other half for a knock-down price on e-Bay" www.louisberk.com

11/17/06, 08:29 AM	#7 (permalink)
spylaw4 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 02/23/06 Location: London Posts: 2,441	Re: St Paul's... digital help wanted. I agree with Louis - but occasionally I feel the need for perspective correction which Lightroom doesn't have (yet?). __________________ ====== Brian Spylaw4 Photography - now updated to 3 May 2008 Constructive comments welcomed.

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lykoudos Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 09/09/06 Posts: 1,544	AW: Re: St Paul's... digital help wanted. Hello Jaak, Impressing admission in completed perspective and composition. I believe, you have the perfect searchsee from birth. Wolfgang (PM grey hammertone, 2,8/28; 1,4/50; 2/90)

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