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ho_co · 12/02/07, 06:43 AM

Andreas--
Hübsch modern!

eyedeebee · 12/02/07, 01:56 PM

Just noticed it - a thumbs up from me!

spylaw4 · 12/02/07, 02:10 PM

Me too!

tim power · 12/02/07, 03:08 PM

neat new logo. seems to make explicit what was always implicit (?) that this forum is mostly an M thing powered by M-ophiles. nowt wrong with Ds and Rs. but the rf Ms - and the wonderful glass of course - still seem to be the beating heart of the Leica brand. shame that the transition from analogue to digital M has been such a bumpy ride.
(have just lost use of the setting ring on my M8. Calumet Liverpool was great last time. got replacement for out of box camera with filthy sensor within 3 weeks while I kept camera to use. this time, I suspect, I'll have to part with my M8 for uncertain length of time and use my M6s instead. what a pain)

andybarton · 12/02/07, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tim power

neat new logo. seems to make explicit what was always implicit (?) that this forum is mostly an M thing powered by M-ophiles.

I sincerely hope not.

This forum is for everyone who use Leica cameras and/or lenses. As soon as it becomes an "M-only" forum, I will no longer participate. And, yes, I do have an M.

earleygallery · 12/02/07, 03:48 PM

It's an Olympus Trip isn't it?

Difficult - it was an outline of an SLR it could be any SLR. The M or rather rangefinder is more recognisable. I certainly have never had the impression that this is 'really' an M forum. I would hazard a guess that there are possibly more M/rangefinder users than SLR's or other Leica cameras though.

andybarton · 12/02/07, 03:48 PM

I thought it was a CM...

elansprint72 · 12/02/07, 03:54 PM

I think that you will find that the logo depicts a Digilux 2.

If this becomes an M only forum, I'm out of here too and, yes, I do have one lying about somewhere in the loft.

Whilst most of the talking about cameras does seem to come from the M fraternity I believe that majority of the photographs posted are from the digital side of the house.

mgcd · 12/02/07, 04:55 PM

Well, I dislike it completely as it seems to imply an M world exclusively.

eyedeebee · 12/02/07, 05:06 PM

Seems to me that there's plenty of LTM and R traffic (probably Digilux as well - I just don't look) that will stop the forum becoming M dominated........provided people stay around of course.......

andybarton · 12/02/07, 05:10 PM

Without using the "L" word, I would imagine it's actually quite difficult to think of something iconic to use as a logo.

It seems to me that the camera looks enough like an M for it to be obvious what it is, but enough not like an M to avoid getting sued...

luigi bertolotti · 12/02/07, 05:56 PM

Sorry, my opinion is that it isn't fine, simply: graphically, apart the "red dot" idea, it hasn't anything original and catching... anyway... not so important an issue... the forum has nothing to sell to anyone, and neither it must beacame a sort of worlwide recognible organization...

stunsworth · 12/02/07, 06:18 PM

Well the red dot's in the wrong place for a start. Sorry Andreas, but this doesn't work for me. My personal preference would be to have the ident as a plain red dot.

gyoung · 12/02/07, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andybarton

I thought it was a CM...

,,,more like a Canon 7

robert_parker · 12/03/07, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stunsworth

Well the red dot's in the wrong place for a start. Sorry Andreas, but this doesn't work for me. My personal preference would be to have the ident as a plain red dot.

I agree with Steve. As you know, I was never that keen on the idea of Leica dis-investing itself of its in-house forum website and changing the logo is yet another degree of separation from things leica. That shouldn't be taken as a failure to recognise that this is the way things have to be, or in any way deprocating the achievement and hard work that Andreas and others have put into the new site but maybe we'll have a box brownie up there next....

Angora · 12/03/07, 09:46 PM

Nice logo, but unfortunaltely that's not a R which is depicted.

earleygallery · 12/04/07, 12:58 AM

If I may be so bold, how about this alternative? After all they were responsible for the 35mm standard frame becoming so popular.

rob_x2004 · 12/04/07, 06:07 AM

I dont think it really matters. However the Forward and Quote in private messages probably was better when it was Forward and Reply. How bout shifting that back?

admin · 12/04/07, 08:11 AM

Dear all,

thanks for the compliments and the suggestions!

I fixed the button issue - now it's "Reply" again...

Developing a new logo is difficult, especially as it has to show we are a Leica forum without saying "Leica" and showing brand elements - including the red dot as stand alone element.

Using a product was in my opinion the only way to keep a close connection to Leica. And if we had to use ONE camera to symbolize Leica, it has to be a Leica M in my eyes as it stands for the brand values, the history and the future of brand and company.

Using one product also means NOT showing other products. If we'd include a R too this would only have shifted the problem: Why no D-cams? Including them too (please don't try to imagine a logo with three cameras in it) the collectors and slide show experts would start to moan. OK, include a projector and a Ur-Leica too.
"Is this only about products?". Nope, Oskar has to be in it too

If I have some free time, perhaps I create some new alternative logos. Perhaps they have to be animated? Give me some time...

Best regards

Andreas

spylaw4 · 12/04/07, 09:10 AM

Oh no - not animation!!

12/02/07, 06:43 AM	#1 (permalink)
ho_co Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 03/27/03 Posts: 2,730	Love the new forum Logo Andreas-- Hübsch modern!

12/02/07, 01:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
eyedeebee Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 10/19/07 Location: Wales Posts: 179	Re: Love the new forum Logo Just noticed it - a thumbs up from me!

12/02/07, 02:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
spylaw4 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 02/23/06 Location: London Posts: 2,436	Re: Love the new forum Logo Me too! __________________ ====== Brian Spylaw4 Photography - now updated to 3 May 2008 Constructive comments welcomed.

12/02/07, 03:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
tim power Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 05/29/07 Location: liverpool Posts: 165	Re: Love the new forum Logo neat new logo. seems to make explicit what was always implicit (?) that this forum is mostly an M thing powered by M-ophiles. nowt wrong with Ds and Rs. but the rf Ms - and the wonderful glass of course - still seem to be the beating heart of the Leica brand. shame that the transition from analogue to digital M has been such a bumpy ride. (have just lost use of the setting ring on my M8. Calumet Liverpool was great last time. got replacement for out of box camera with filthy sensor within 3 weeks while I kept camera to use. this time, I suspect, I'll have to part with my M8 for uncertain length of time and use my M6s instead. what a pain) __________________ gonzopix Last edited by tim power : 12/02/07 at 03:51 PM. Reason: seconds thoughts

12/02/07, 03:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
earleygallery Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 06/29/06 Posts: 2,759	Re: Love the new forum Logo It's an Olympus Trip isn't it? Difficult - it was an outline of an SLR it could be any SLR. The M or rather rangefinder is more recognisable. I certainly have never had the impression that this is 'really' an M forum. I would hazard a guess that there are possibly more M/rangefinder users than SLR's or other Leica cameras though. __________________ Regards, James www.earleygallery.com Last edited by earleygallery : 12/02/07 at 03:50 PM.

12/02/07, 03:48 PM	#7 (permalink)
andybarton Moderator Join Date: 06/21/06 Location: Airstrip 1 - 53:17:00N 03:04:00W Posts: 7,618	Re: Love the new forum Logo I thought it was a CM... __________________ Cheers, Andy ___________________________ 2008 Spring Collection now released

12/02/07, 03:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
elansprint72 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 08/27/05 Location: Utterly, Up North. Posts: 5,852	Re: Love the new forum Logo I think that you will find that the logo depicts a Digilux 2. If this becomes an M only forum, I'm out of here too and, yes, I do have one lying about somewhere in the loft. Whilst most of the talking about cameras does seem to come from the M fraternity I believe that majority of the photographs posted are from the digital side of the house. __________________ Cheers, Pete. http://www.petetaylor.org Sept 08 update now rolling out........

12/02/07, 04:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
mgcd Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 09/25/02 Location: Medan, Indonesia Posts: 749	Re: Love the new forum Logo Well, I dislike it completely as it seems to imply an M world exclusively. __________________ www.duroseau.com www.lightstalkers.org/conrad-duroseau

12/02/07, 05:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
eyedeebee Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 10/19/07 Location: Wales Posts: 179	Re: Love the new forum Logo Seems to me that there's plenty of LTM and R traffic (probably Digilux as well - I just don't look) that will stop the forum becoming M dominated........provided people stay around of course.......

12/02/07, 05:10 PM	#11 (permalink)
andybarton Moderator Join Date: 06/21/06 Location: Airstrip 1 - 53:17:00N 03:04:00W Posts: 7,618	Re: Love the new forum Logo Without using the "L" word, I would imagine it's actually quite difficult to think of something iconic to use as a logo. It seems to me that the camera looks enough like an M for it to be obvious what it is, but enough not like an M to avoid getting sued... __________________ Cheers, Andy ___________________________ 2008 Spring Collection now released

12/02/07, 05:56 PM	#12 (permalink)
luigi bertolotti Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 01/24/07 Location: Brescia Posts: 2,552	Re: Love the new forum Logo Sorry, my opinion is that it isn't fine, simply: graphically, apart the "red dot" idea, it hasn't anything original and catching... anyway... not so important an issue... the forum has nothing to sell to anyone, and neither it must beacame a sort of worlwide recognible organization...

12/02/07, 06:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
stunsworth Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 09/30/02 Location: Manchester Posts: 7,753	Re: Love the new forum Logo Well the red dot's in the wrong place for a start. Sorry Andreas, but this doesn't work for me. My personal preference would be to have the ident as a plain red dot. __________________ Steve Website - www.steveunsworth.co.uk Picture a week - http://www.steveunsworth.co.uk/PAW_blog/?page_id=9

12/03/07, 09:46 PM	#16 (permalink)
Angora Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 06/24/06 Posts: 194	Re: Love the new forum Logo Nice logo, but unfortunaltely that's not a R which is depicted.

12/04/07, 06:07 AM	#18 (permalink)
rob_x2004 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 02/18/05 Posts: 3,547	Re: Love the new forum Logo I dont think it really matters. However the Forward and Quote in private messages probably was better when it was Forward and Reply. How bout shifting that back?

12/04/07, 08:11 AM	#19 (permalink)
admin Administrator Join Date: 05/23/06 Location: Bonn, Südstadt Posts: 1,051	Re: Love the new forum Logo Dear all, thanks for the compliments and the suggestions! I fixed the button issue - now it's "Reply" again... Developing a new logo is difficult, especially as it has to show we are a Leica forum without saying "Leica" and showing brand elements - including the red dot as stand alone element. Using a product was in my opinion the only way to keep a close connection to Leica. And if we had to use ONE camera to symbolize Leica, it has to be a Leica M in my eyes as it stands for the brand values, the history and the future of brand and company. Using one product also means NOT showing other products. If we'd include a R too this would only have shifted the problem: Why no D-cams? Including them too (please don't try to imagine a logo with three cameras in it) the collectors and slide show experts would start to moan. OK, include a projector and a Ur-Leica too. "Is this only about products?". Nope, Oskar has to be in it too If I have some free time, perhaps I create some new alternative logos. Perhaps they have to be animated? Give me some time... Best regards Andreas __________________ Andreas Jürgensen Admin & Editor NEW: L-Camera Gallery \| Classifieds / Gebrauchtmarkt \| Wiki (deutsch) \| Wiki (english) \| Forum RSS Feeds

12/04/07, 09:10 AM	#20 (permalink)
spylaw4 Erfahrener Benutzer Join Date: 02/23/06 Location: London Posts: 2,436	Re: Love the new forum Logo Oh no - not animation!! __________________ ====== Brian Spylaw4 Photography - now updated to 3 May 2008 Constructive comments welcomed.