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Originally Posted by Jamie Roberts
As for the low-light stuff, well, crummy light is crummy light, whether there's a lot of it or a little of it. The Leica fast glass gives a different look in lower light than other lenses... but often you need to make more / better light anyway.
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I agree, and so you need 'good' flash, which is not the M8's strong point (yes it can do it but if I have to carry a decent flash - my bag just got bigger too).
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Originally Posted by Jamie Roberts
There just isn't a comparison between a good zoom shot at f2.8 or 3.2 and very high ISO or the Nocti shot at 1.2, and the M8 is fine to 1250, IMO. After that, the current round of Canons and Nikons eat it up, but honestly, unless you're shooting Canon's fastest glass (or some of Nikons older fast glass) you need the higher ISO speeds just to compensate for the slower glass!
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Except I just don't want a Nocti, and some times I don't have room for a 50mm, I need much wider (i.e. inside).
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Originally Posted by Jamie Roberts
But I guess it all depends on how you shoot and what sort of look you want. Like Tina, I'm itching to swap my remaining Canon dSLR for another M digital. But for exact framing (every now and then I need that) and needing autofocus in some situations, I'd only use an M.
Of course it also depends on what you shoot, but I find it odd you should say primes don't give you the range you need! You don't need to take all of them with you; surely a 21 / 28 / 50 is a nice kit and the equivalent (with your feet) of many a zoom.
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Oh, if it were that simple I would be such a happy camper. But alas no. I do a lot of maritime shooting (some Navy but usually merchant shipping) and for some reason they put these things in water, and put the bit I get to stand on to take the shot at some other pre-defined distance away, often with only 10-15 feet of foot zoom available even then. Alas I have not yet learned to walk on water.
If I only had (say) the 28,50,75 with me, I would almost always need something longer or wider. If I had the 75/90/135 with me I may be tempted to use one of those and stitch shots together, but it's a PITA. For this stuff, I really do think a zoom comes in to it's own.
For the street, the M8 + 28 or 35 is perfect for me.
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Originally Posted by Jamie Roberts
On a wedding day, I usually use 21 / 28 / 90 + nocti for later on the M8. I don't use the 35 or 75 as much as I would if this were a full-frame M, though I love both those lenses.
Ideally, I'd have one M shooting 21 / 28 / nocti and another with 24 / 35 / 75 as its kit. (But I won't buy another M8 till they fix the green streak thing). I'll be overjoyed when they make this thing full-frame, though.
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Ah, the luxury of being able to zoom with your feet
One other thing I have realised is that often the graphics guy just wants the correctly framed shot with as many pixels as possible (within reason) so he can get to his 300ppi, and does not really care that the shot is extra sharp rather than just in focus (i.e. as long as it's good-enough), and he doesn't care at all about that nice Leica signature look. In fact, he sometimes actually dislikes it!