sandymc Posted February 5, 2013 Share #21 Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) These look a lot more credible that the last set, and not just because Jono takes excellent photos - at a first glance, noise seems quite low on the ISO2500 images, and the ugly pixel patterning seems much better. One question for Jono - was the artist and copyright information added in-camera or afterwards? If in camera, then there's a bug in the firmware - both are technically not properly formatted. Practically, it's not a big deal; most software will ignore the formatting issues, but it should be put right. Sandy Edited February 5, 2013 by sandymc Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 5, 2013 Posted February 5, 2013 Hi sandymc, Take a look here The REAL M-240 sample images - congrats to Jono Slack. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
dwbell Posted February 5, 2013 Share #22 Posted February 5, 2013 These look a lot more credible that the last set, and not just because Jono takes excellent photos - at a first glance, noise seems quite low on the ISO2500 images, and the ugly pixel patterning seems much better. One questions for Jono - was the artist and copyright information added in-camera or afterwards? If in camera, then there's a bug in the firmware - both are technically not properly formatted. Practically, it's not a big deal; most software will ignore the formatting issues, but it should be put right. Sandy You can find the patterning behind the tomatoes if you raise it 2 stop, I think? (Yeah, I know.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_murray Posted February 5, 2013 Share #23 Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) Sandy, the default artist & copyright metadata in LR4 seems OK? "Jonathan Slack AUTO ISO" Good extra detail can be pulled from the shadows of the bread still life. Wonderful warm tones to that photo. Thanks. Edited February 5, 2013 by bill_murray Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandymc Posted February 5, 2013 Share #24 Posted February 5, 2013 Sandy, the default artist & copyright metadata in LR4 seems seems OK?"Jonathan Slack AUTO ISO" Good detail can be pulledfrom the shadows of the bread still life. Wonderful warm tones to that photo. Thanks. Bill, yes, like I said, most software will ignore the issue - but if you run something like Adobe's dng_validate that runs a strict check on the file format, it will complain about bad termination. Sandy 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrogers Posted February 5, 2013 Share #25 Posted February 5, 2013 You can find the patterning behind the tomatoes if you raise it 2 stop, I think? (Yeah, I know.) Crank the clarity to %100 (yeah, I know too), and you see hot pixels pop out of that photo, and some pattern noise on the older photos. Try the same trick with the ISO 5000 orange lantern, and I can't find a pattern. In the dark areas of the glasses photo, no hot pixels. The nasty line artifact from the early puddle reflection photo (and same but smaller below the wine glass in the bread photo) isn't there on the higher ISO lantern photo. Maybe it's the light, maybe it's the hallucinogenic aura of a Leica, or maybe Jono's camera is subtly improving with new firmware. This looks really good. Thanks so much, Jono, for providing photos that are both fun to look at and to play around with! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trond Posted February 5, 2013 Share #26 Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) The photos comes from two different cameras: 4444021 and 4444319. The images from the last camera seems very clean. First camera has visible pattern noise, but this noise disappears in FW version 0.1.10.0 Best regards Trond Edited February 5, 2013 by trond 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted February 5, 2013 Share #27 Posted February 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Jono- How cheeky. We suspected you had one, but all your posts over many months never hinted of you having one, not to mention 2 bodies. You were throwing us off with all that Olympus talk. WELL DONE!! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEME Posted February 5, 2013 Share #28 Posted February 5, 2013 Thanks Andy Please don't shoot me either (nervous doesn't quite describe it!) I hope that you're all as enthusiastic as I am. All the best Very well done Jono. Excellent work and gallery. I thought you were up to something when I contacted you a few days ago... Again, excellent! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonki-M Posted February 5, 2013 Share #29 Posted February 5, 2013 thanks for sharing, Jono. This is supremely helpful and i can finally reach the ultimatum of the dilemma (i hope). Congrats in being one of the firsts to get your hands on it!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted February 5, 2013 Share #30 Posted February 5, 2013 (edited) These images are what we really needed all the time. Frankly, I'm surprised and very happy for Leica for this leap in design. I'm pushed over the edge to purchase the M240. My confidence is restored! Very good, concise article as well. Thank you so much Jono and Leica! You made my day. . Edited February 5, 2013 by pico 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anupmc Posted February 5, 2013 Share #31 Posted February 5, 2013 Thanks Andy Please don't shoot me either (nervous doesn't quite describe it!) I hope that you're all as enthusiastic as I am. All the best Very nice set! Pixel peeping shot 112959... towards the lower 10th of the shot, there's a broken horizontal red line across almost the width of the picture... Sensor problem? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashwinrao1 Posted February 5, 2013 Share #32 Posted February 5, 2013 Great work, Jono. I am thrilled to be able to use and edit the files that are more meaningful to the conext of images that I would take in the circumstances that I'd take them. A fantastic set of images, and thus, a fantastic way to pixel peep, edit, and generally mess around with these files. All the best to you, and no worries...I think that the reception will be warm (though for those standing at the back of the M queue's at their camera store, it'll be a while before they get to the front now .... Best, Ashwin 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanJW Posted February 5, 2013 Share #33 Posted February 5, 2013 Thanks Andy Please don't shoot me either (nervous doesn't quite describe it!) I hope that you're all as enthusiastic as I am. All the best No need for worry. Beautiful work. Thank you for posting. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 5, 2013 Share #34 Posted February 5, 2013 Very nice set! Pixel peeping shot 112959... towards the lower 10th of the shot, there's a broken horizontal red line across almost the width of the picture... Sensor problem? HI There - probably this needs answering. Thanks for pointing it out. It's to do with sensor calibration - that camera was a very early prototype (I actually used 3 different cameras and this was the first), and this is something you might find in one or two of the images - it's known and fixed in the later cameras. all the best 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hepcat Posted February 5, 2013 Share #35 Posted February 5, 2013 Beautiful work Jono... just beautiful. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmldds Posted February 5, 2013 Share #36 Posted February 5, 2013 Jono, Thank you very much for sharing those wonderful photos. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted February 5, 2013 Share #37 Posted February 5, 2013 The photos comes from two different cameras: 4444021 and 4444319. The images from the last camera seems very clean. First camera has visible pattern noise, but this noise disappears in FW version 0.1.10.0 Best regards Trond Yes, if you compare "bread" with "map", which appear to have been taken in the same light within 8 minutes of each other, both at ISO200 - "map" is clearly a better image in terms of low luminance grid pattern sensor artefacts. "map" being the "better" camera as you describe it. It's quite a discernible difference though, I hope I get "map" not "bread" on my pre-order! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share #38 Posted February 5, 2013 I am sure that they will all be "map". This is why they have been taking their time with the testing process. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted February 5, 2013 Share #39 Posted February 5, 2013 I like these pictures. They look very promising. I am waiting for the best. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 5, 2013 Share #40 Posted February 5, 2013 Yes, if you compare "bread" with "map", which appear to have been taken in the same light within 8 minutes of each other, both at ISO200 - "map" is clearly a better image in terms of low luminance grid pattern sensor artefacts. "map" being the "better" camera as you describe it. It's quite a discernible difference though, I hope I get "map" not "bread" on my pre-order! Hi There Bread - if you mean the shot with the tomatoes and olive oil. Was taken on 2nd December, with the first camera sample (without a serial number in the exif - actually 4444002 FWIW!) Map - if you mean the shot with the map and the spectacles was taken on the 22nd January this year with 4444319 - a much later camera - so I hope and expect that you would get map and not bread! all the best 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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