shaozhuohong Posted January 9, 2013 Share #1 Posted January 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Does anyone know that if the X1 & X2's ASPH lens made by glass or resin? if it is made by glass, does it made by polishing machine or stamper machine? Thanks:) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shaozhuohong Posted January 9, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted January 9, 2013 Hi Does anyone know that if the X1 & X2's ASPH lens made by glass or resin? if it is made by glass, does it made by polishing machine or stamper machine? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 9, 2013 Share #3 Posted January 9, 2013 I think you have been reading this thread http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-lenses/262102-any-50mm-apo-summicron-asph-deliveries-3.html I can't answer your question for sure, but I would expect that the lens for the X1/X2 is made for Leica by a third party, rather like those for the Panasonic cameras. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted January 9, 2013 Share #4 Posted January 9, 2013 My guess is glass lens elements and moulded aspherical surfaces where applicable. Grinding the aspherical surfaces seems too expensive in this price segment. Andy Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 11, 2013 Share #5 Posted January 11, 2013 Leica does not use plastic for lenses. The asphericals are blank-pressed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaozhuohong Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted January 11, 2013 Leica does not use plastic for lenses. The asphericals are blank-pressed. Thanks for your reply, but may I ask if you have any evidence to say so? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted January 11, 2013 Share #7 Posted January 11, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Even Panasonic makes blank-pressed glass asphericals, not plastic lenses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 11, 2013 Share #8 Posted January 11, 2013 Thanks for your reply, but may I ask if you have any evidence to say so? Just try saying the word " plastic" inside the Leica lens dept. Two big hairy bouncers will throw you into a muddy puddle outside the door.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitom Posted January 11, 2013 Share #9 Posted January 11, 2013 My guess is glass lens elements and moulded aspherical surfaces where applicable. Grinding the aspherical surfaces seems too expensive in this price segment. Andy I do not think so. Sure the lens is one of the most expensive parts of this camera. What else should justify that price? In fact, the X2 is a very spartanic camera (and that is ok!). So there must be a reason (beside the red dot). I think the lens is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 11, 2013 Share #10 Posted January 11, 2013 I do not think so. Sure the lens is one of the most expensive parts of this camera.What else should justify that price? In fact, the X2 is a very spartanic camera (and that is ok!). So there must be a reason (beside the red dot). I think the lens is. An X2 is approx. £1500 in the UK. That's for the lens with a camera attached to it, as well as the software etc that comes with it. A 24mm f3.8 M lens (the cheaper option) is £1800. That's just the lens of course. Do the maths as they say. Obviously the lens on the X2 is not made by Leica, and not to the same standards as the M lenses. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 12, 2013 Share #11 Posted January 12, 2013 I'm not disagreeing with James as I am certain that the X1/2 lenses are made for Leica, a long way from Solms, where the M lenses are made, but it must be easier and cheaper to make a decent lens for an APS size recording device than a full frame one. There is nothing wrong with the lens on an X1/2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wda Posted January 12, 2013 Share #12 Posted January 12, 2013 Forgive my going off-topic Andy, but did you resolve your problems with your new X1? I recall it went back to Germany. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 12, 2013 Share #13 Posted January 12, 2013 No, it never went back to Germany, it's here in my bag. I just put up with it... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitom Posted January 12, 2013 Share #14 Posted January 12, 2013 An X2 is approx. £1500 in the UK. That's for the lens with a camera attached to it, as well as the software etc that comes with it. A 24mm f3.8 M lens (the cheaper option) is £1800. That's just the lens of course. Do the maths as they say. Obviously the lens on the X2 is not made by Leica, and not to the same standards as the M lenses. Noone compares the X2 with Leica M, except you. How can you say that the lenses are obviously not made by Leica. If you have any informations about, you should share it. Just talk about facts. Because, when I was at Leica experience days last year and the year before, they at Leica told me that Lens of X1 and X2 are made by Leica. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 12, 2013 Share #15 Posted January 12, 2013 I would suggest that the lenses are made FOR Leica, to their design, rather than BY Leica. But, it's actually difficult to find out this kind of information. Leica don't tell. It took a while to find out that the X1/2 were made in Portugal. It could be that the lenses are made there too, but traditionally, Leica have kept their lens manufacturing kit well away from their metal bashing kit. It would be interesting to know for sure, just for the sake if knowing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaozhuohong Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share #16 Posted January 13, 2013 hello andybarton and everyone, if you use the words such as "certain" or "find out", please also provide the relative evidence. As far as I know, the glass of leica lens are made by Schott, and theose glasses final assembles in leica factory. But all of that doesn't answer my original question. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 13, 2013 Share #17 Posted January 13, 2013 The lenses are glass Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 13, 2013 Share #18 Posted January 13, 2013 hello andybarton and everyone, if you use the words such as "certain" or "find out", please also provide the relative evidence. As far as I know, the glass of leica lens are made by Schott, and theose glasses final assembles in leica factory. But all of that doesn't answer my original question. Well, the Leica lenses for the other compact digitals are made by Panasonic. I don't know if Panasonic actually produce them or if it is subbed out to yet another manufacturer - the Leica lens on the Digilux 1 was also VERY similar to the lens on contemporary Canon and Olympus models at the time...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 13, 2013 Share #19 Posted January 13, 2013 hello andybarton and everyone, if you use the words such as "certain" or "find out", please also provide the relative evidence. As far as I know, the glass of leica lens are made by Schott, and theose glasses final assembles in leica factory. But all of that doesn't answer my original question. The lenses are glass I used the comparison to point out that if the lenses on the X1/2 were made alongside the M lenses, the price would be much higher. I bought a compact digital camera with a Leica lens for £99. I'm under no illusion that the lens was hand made by Leica in Germany. It's still an excellent lens however, as is the lens on the X1/2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
s38 Posted January 14, 2013 Share #20 Posted January 14, 2013 I would suggest that the lenses are made FOR Leica, to their design, rather than BY Leica. But, it's actually difficult to find out this kind of information. Leica don't tell. It took a while to find out that the X1/2 were made in Portugal. It could be that the lenses are made there too, but traditionally, Leica have kept their lens manufacturing kit well away from their metal bashing kit. It would be interesting to know for sure, just for the sake if knowing. When you say X1/2 it's made in Portugal you are not talking out of your arse, are you?Mine says it's made in Germany, and it also has Wolfgang's signature... Looks like the X1/2 haters cant accept the fact that those two cameras have great IQ, and in some cases they are better that M9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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